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jtg 08-24-2014 02:52 AM

Small Boot Snowboarders Support Group
 
After realizing that I've apparently overlooked an important sizing element in snowboarding all this time, waist width, I've come to the realization that this industry is not made for dudes with size 7-7.5 feet.

Apparently just about everyone has a foot length that is significantly larger than the waist width of their snowboard (though not necessarily overhanging at the inserts with angles - and talking about feet only, not boots). This isn't the case for 7 feet. Some boards are 247mm, but a size 7 is 250mm. For comparison, a size 9.5 is 267mm, way wider than even most wide boards at the waist yet fits on a normal width board.

That has to make for some rather significant mechanical differences, so now I'm curious what it feels like snowboarding on something that fits. The problem is almost all of the boards with less than 240mm waists, which you'd need to get comparable leverage, are either super short toy boards or wet noodle women's boards.

My powder boards are 253mm at the waist :blink: Wider for powder is probably not that bad, but I'm guessing at least a 247 or something will make me feel like I was on a boat before.

What do the other 7s ride? Or do you just accept that you have to lay in to everything harder than everybody else? What are the longer, narrow, stiffer boards?

TRS 148N is 238mm, but I'd like something a bit longer. So far, that's all I can really find.

Yes Hel is 239, but only 146, which is too tiny.

The other option is custom building a Prior, which I'm way too cheap to pay for.

ETM 08-24-2014 03:17 AM

Heaps of small time guys can build you a custom ride at a good price. I could but Im too far away.
Google divide rides. He builds really nice boards out of canada.

ETM 08-24-2014 03:19 AM

Ps go small with your sidecut radius. 6m or so.
That will let you have a narrow waist but keep the tips relatively wide

ETM 08-24-2014 03:22 AM

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?i...672727751&_rdr

wrathfuldeity 08-24-2014 03:24 AM

Been a member for a long time. Gotz men's 7 and could even go down to a 6.5. Not only boards ... but boots and for me...WEIGHT at 180#...are also issues. My boots are women 32 Focus Boa size 8 and 7.5, and women's K2 Contour size 8.

Ime the perfect waist width would be 24.3-5 and iirc my main stable ranges form 24.3 to 26. The 26 is a bear but has been mitigated via diy 20mm riser plates.

list of the quiver and past favs for width

Option women's Kendra Starr camber 155 ...directional twin
Option women's Trinity camber 158...women's version of the Vinson
Option NorthShore camber pintail 161/2?...abit wide but doable...may split
Gnu Billy Goat c2btx split 159
Charlie Slasher 164...way too wide but does alright with diy 20mm riser

Gnu old cambered b-nice 154...sadly snapped the tail...fun board

Current potentials
Gnu Billy Goat 156...btw Temple also has small feet...iirc 8
Gnu Rider's Choice 154
Gnu Lady's Choice 154
Gnu Bpro 155
Jaimie Lynn 157? c3

I also drooled over some Venture boards

jtg 08-24-2014 03:54 AM

Hmm, even 243 isn't comparable to what normal feet get on a normal board for leverage, though probably a big improvement. 9.5 feet get an extra 22mm on a 253 board, and a 7 would get just 7mm on a 243, and probably back to negative at the inserts with angles factored in.

@ETM: yeah, can't find any sidecut that aggressive, can barely find suitable boards at all. Unless you mean custom specs.

WTF do they ride in Japan? They must have boards that don't land over here.

ETM 08-24-2014 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jtg (Post 1789194)
Hmm, even 243 isn't comparable to what normal feet get on a normal board for leverage, though probably a big improvement. 9.5 feet get an extra 13mm on a 253 board, and a 7 would get just 1mm on a 243, and back to negative at the inserts with angles factored in.

@ETM: yeah, can't find any sidecut that aggressive, can barely find suitable boards at all. Unless you mean custom specs.

WTF do they ride in Japan? They must have boards that don't land over here.

Im talking about a custom shape. Divide can do it for you easily.
I feel your pain too. I built some super wide boards and they were so hard to edge-lack of leverage, you really need the right width board to enjoy snowboarding.
Hit him up on facebook or email about a custom shape, tell him Goz sent you ;-)

ETM 08-24-2014 04:10 AM

And what do they ride in japan? Lots of shit that the western world would say is "wrong".
Boards above head height etc. It truely is another world

wrathfuldeity 08-24-2014 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETM (Post 1789210)
And what do they ride in japan? Lots of shit that the western world would say is "wrong".
Boards above head height etc. It truely is another world

pics please...tiny Asians with big ass samuri boards

and hook me up...I'm asian wit small feet

Wiredsport 08-24-2014 07:05 AM

Hi JTG,

How much do you weigh?

Please measure your foot using this method:

Kick your heel (barefoot please, no socks) back against a wall. Mark the floor exactly at the tip of your toe (the one that sticks out furthest - which toe this is will vary by rider). Measure from the mark on the floor to the wall. That is your foot length and is the only measurement that you will want to use. Measure in centimeters if possible, but if not, take inches and multiply by 2.54 (example: an 11.25 inch foot x 2.54 = 28.57 centimeters).


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