I'll put up some photos of it on my foot, the liner, and everything soon enough. Let's just put it this way they told me they were stiff. I'd say at best they're below a mid flex. They said the heel hold was amazing, it's a liner that's free floating and doesn't lock you into the shell. My .02 cents and this is from years of fitting boots is they're about 3 years behind where they need to be.
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Because someone has to call it how they see it!