If you've got either of these binders, let me know what you think of them? I'm planning on riding mostly groomers, a little bit of park (still learning park) and have it narrowed down to these two, and I want to know what experience you've had with them, quality, breaking, etc.
i got the force's , and i laz167 pretty much sums it up. the toestrap can come of but once you get it set up its not longer a prob ( unless you wipe out on your toeside )
also , if you take a hard wipeout on your heelside you might unhook you forward lean knob and will need to set up the angle again ( but this is only on pretty hard wipeouts and if you ride goofy it happens faster since the knobs turn in that direction )
for the rest they are great bindings and i wouldnt trade em for anything
I do 0% park, though. I still freeride, but I like to do some jumps along the way. I seriously considered the 390's, but I've never tried them. I didn't know if they would be TOO soft. They are a heck of a lot easier to find, though. I missed out on $80 Targas because my internet is too slow and I missed my bid...
You'll definitely like them better. I've tried jumps with my Arsenals and it's like wearing cement boots. Needless to say I am looking into some Targas.
I haven't had problems moving back and forth between my Targas and Arsenals. The Arsenals are stiffer, but it's not that drastic. I haven't ridden the 390s yet so i can't really comment on those. If you think the Arsenals are way too stiff, you may want to look past the Targas to something else.
Well, don't get me wrong. I absolutely love my Arsenals for powder. But when the end of the season comes around, they don't help me out a lot on tabletops and little jumps. I'd prefer to ride in 4 feet of powder every day, but when the end of the season comes around, I branch out to jumps and other stuff. I'm thinking of putting my Arsenals on my Design and getting some Targas for my Anthem.