Hi everyone I'm new to the forum and I'm after some advice. I'm looking at getting a all mountain board that I can do pretty much anything on. I'll be riding mostly groomers with a bit of powder when I get the chance. I'll be in the park sometimes but mostly groomers and powder. I've been looking at the Burton Custom and the Burton Custom Flying V. I was told by someone on the live chat on the-house.com to go for the cambered custom. Just wanted some other people's advice and help! I'm also open to other boards. Thanks
I like Burton boards and it sounds like you have some interest in that direction.
I ride an Antler Flying V and I like it very much, but I ride powder frequently. If you are going to be more focused on groomers with a bit of powder, I think the Process Off Axis and Custom Anniversary are both awesome choices. They have a pure pop camber (rocker-camber-rocker) that still carves like crazy but will be a little more forgiving and float a bit better in powder. It is essentially between camber and flying v so it might be just the ticket.
I had looked at the 20th Anniversary Custom with the Purepop Camber but with the limited sizing and me being a 156 I wasn't sure whether the 158 would be OK. It is in my weight range but I just had some doubts.
Do you think Burton will release the purepop camber next season in the Custom as I'm not going to be able to get away until next year and and don't want to get a new board for it to just sit and collect dust.
Or should I buy it now and just use it next year?
Also how does the FV profile feel on hard pack/ice as I've heard it's not very stable and a bit chattery and can wash out?
Thanks for your help
I think the 156 would be a good all around size for you and the 158 would be a little large, but ideal for charging and powder.
I don't know for sure but I suspect that Burton will be phasing in more Pure Pop Camber boards in the up coming seasons.
My personal experience with Flying V (Antler) is that after significant amount of time and technique adjustments, I don't feel like I've lost that much grip vs a cambered board. I get WAY better float in powder and a much more forgiving ride for perhaps 10-15% less grip on ice. With good form, I can generally make up for that grip deficit and I love the positives.
I do find it tires me out a bit faster than a cambered board on groomers and hard snow because I can't quite phone it in the way I can on a cambered board. On the other hand, I can ride powder all day and not feel like I'm going to die and I can bomb flat-based without feelings like I'm going to catch and edge.
I kept my cambered board as a back up, but I have trouble imagining going back to camber as my primary ride. I'm a guy who hits powder and park in the same run so Flying V works great for me. That said, if I lived somewhere that I was forced to spend more time on ice (Vermont for instance) I would be leaning more towards the Pure Pop Camber.
That's my experience... others may have different experiences.
Yeah I did think the 158 would be a little on the large side! What do you think about me buying a board now vs waiting until next season as I'm not able to go away again until next year?
Not sure if it's worth spend the money and not using it? What do you think?
We are closing in on the time of year when stuff goes on sale. Basically you gamble to wait as long as possible because the discounts get deeper, but if you wait too long, the desirable gear sells out. You are relatively average sized, so I can tell you from experience that the sizes you desire will probably be some of the first to sell out.
In short, wait for the sales, but don't wait too long.
Yeah I've notice quite a few sales already! Might jump in and get on now I can't see tech changing much next season and prices will only go up.
I went in to a local shop today and had a chat with one of the assistants I think I'm going to go with the Camber Custom and just set the stance back when going in powder!
Take my opinion with a grain of a salt as i am only a low intermediate rider, I just purchased a process flying v (162 i'm 210lbs 95kg) so on the heavy side of the recommendation, I have been riding 4 days over the past week in france and italy and had a mix of slush, hard pack ice, groomer and 2 ft powder.
I am pleasantly surprised how good the flying v grips icy black runs, stability at speeds up to 60km/h (snow trace app) and powder.
I agree. I gather that Burton has gotten better and better at dialing in the Flying V year after year and I really enjoy it. Even as an expert rider with 25 year experience, I really appreciate the playfulness and being able to relax and mix together carves, side hits, butters, ollie 360's, switch and regular without worrying so much about catching edges. I feel like I can flow better and that suits my style very well. Oh good lord do I love the powder float on Flying V as well.
I think it comes down to the fact that you can play on camber or charge on Flying V (CRC), but Flying V is best for people who love to play and camber is best for folks who love to charge.
With that said, if I was to pick any other board, I would go for Process Off Axis looks like aboard that strikes a nice balance between playing and charging. If I were less powder focused, I'd be riding one right now.
Custom camber is a great board. I think you will love it, but it is a bit more towards the charging spectrum but it does play nicely particularly if you opt for the 154 or 156.
Yeah I'm going to go with the 156 Custom Camber as I'm 77kg/170lbs and that's only 5lbs of the top of the weight range. with that length I feel that it'll still be long enough to go in powder and with the stance set back it will aid in float. I'm going to be mostly on piste with my wife who doesn't want to go in the powder as she's not 100% confident yet. If I was to go in the pow often I was thinking of getting a powder board in a few years.
Is the Custom Camber still able to go in the park if I fancy it every now and then?
Custom camber will do everything pretty darn well. It could be your only board, and you would probably be quite happy.
It's definitely park capable, but it's a bit more of a jumper than a jibber. Much of the Burton team uses it as their park and pipe board.
I've had no chatter issues with the Flying V even at high speeds. I found it took some time to adjust to because I did wash out at first. Since I started centering my weight and keeping my knees wide it's been all good.
The camber and flying v have very different feels. You could always demo and see what you like.
PS - If you go flying v, I recommend bumping up one size. You get more stability and float and make up some of the power and aggressiveness you lose by going flying v.
You should take a look at the twin version of the custom as well, i ride it and i love it. But that's because I'm constantly riding switch so a Twin ride is ideal.
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