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Camrock vs camber in powder, 157 or 160

How much better in powder is a 157 camrock board (Slash Brainstorm) vs a 158 camber board (sierra crew / custom from 2010)?

I'm trying to decide between a 157 or 160 Slash Brainstorm to pair with my 158 camber board from 2010. I don't have a chance to test riding a camrock board unfortunately. I see Brainstorm has 'great' rating for powder and 1.25" setback, so wondering if I can get away with the 157.

I'm solid intermediate, still looking to progress in switch, jumps, trees, moguls in addition to having a board with better float in powder.

~180lb without gear, 10.5 boot, 6'1 height. Coming from old 158 camber board from 2010 (249cm waist width), how much difference do the new camrock profiles make in powder?

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A camrock board will likely float better than the same board in traditional camber, but there's a lot more to powder performance than just camber profile. There are plenty of great traditional camber powder decks.
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Camber is just not the best profile in pow....

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In order to have powder float, you want a big nose that gently curves upward. This helps the board plane.

You can also taper the board (wide nose/narrow tail) and play other tricks with the tail shape to help the rear end sink in powder. Large waist width also helps give more surface area for floatation. Unfortunately these things tend to limit the versatility of the board particularly when it comes to things like freestyle and switch riding.

Camrock is just about the best profile in my mind for an all mountain board. You get most of the edge hold and power of camber, much better float in powder and a ride that is a bit more forgiving without feeling really loose and slidy on steep stuff like a rocker board.

If you are looking for a board to ride everywhere that will perform decently in powder, camrock is a super good choice. If you are looking for something powder specific, a directional board with taper and a big old rockered nose is the ticket. Board like the Flight Attendent and PYL still do very well on hard park and others are designed basically completely for powder riding.
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Some traditional camber boards will float well in powder, but it will have a lot to do with how you ride the board. Both the Arbor A-Frame and the Arbor Steepwater will be excellent in powder as they have huge setbacks, but they have to be ridden hard and fast, which is what they are meant for. Camber boards that float well in pow are few and far between these days, but the ones that do....kick some serious ass!
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157 camrock.
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Thanks, that helps. So any thoughts on 157 or 160 Brainstorm to pair with old camber 158 (e.g burton custom) ?
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not a pairing, it's a replacement. there is no condition or terrain where you would be reaching for an old camber deck that's essentially the same length. 157 if you ride tight trees, bumps, gnar, etc. more, 160 if you stick to the more wide open pow,trails and such, only you can answer that.

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Assuming two boards are the same except their camber profiles camrock will greatly reduce the rear leg burn you get with camber, and you will not need to set your stance back like people do with camber to help the nose float better. Just think of the shape of camber; when the pow is hitting the tail end it naturally pushes the nose down and the rider needs to lean back to compensate and their back leg has to deal with all that force. That little bit of rocker in the camrock helps so much, it kind of gives a pivot point where you can shift your weight back instead of having to lean back hard.
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Thanks, that helps. So any thoughts on 157 or 160 Brainstorm to pair with old camber 158 (e.g burton custom) ?
More than likely the old one would become a rock board, or one you lend out to your friends, or a good dust collector. Realistically 3 cm aint gonna make much of a difference, and it would be wiser to look at things like waist width, effective edge and sidecut radius. I would personally go for the 60 because I like to ride fast and I can still throw a board like that around well enough in the trees, a 57 would feel kind of squirlly to me when I'm bombing flat out and thats not a trade off I would want to make for the extra nimbleness.

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