stuck on RC and TBT for my next board - Snowboarding Forum

ev0ke · 12-11-2009, 04:06 PM

o7,

I've been riding off and on for the past 6 years using a beginner's board. This year, I've decided to take it up a notch as I have more free time and concluded it's time I get a serious board. I'll be carving exclusively on the east coast this year. I like to ride the whole mountain for the most part, but I'm also determined to really focus on kickers and the odd rail or 2.

I've been doing alot of reading the past week, and I thought I was decided on NS' R.C. technology.... until I came across Penguin's Bataleon Evil Twin review. After doing some digging on TBT and reading reviews, I'm simply stuck at the x-road. One of my biggest issues with jumps is catching an edge off rotations, and TBT seems like it could be a solution. However, alot of riders are also praising the R.C., such as Angry, for its better edge control. Unfortunately, I haven't come across any extensive opinions by riders who've ridden both and compared, aside from Angry's blog.

In the end, I'm mostly looking for something that will help propel me off jumps (I believe 'pop' is the right term) all the while allowing me to enjoy regular runs and the woods. Thus, I believe I've narrowed down the correct models for each technology.

NS: EVO-R or SL-R
Bataleon: Riot or Goliath

I'm 5'9", 64kg/140lbs, so I'm assuming a 155/157 is a proper length (?).

So, would anyone be able to sway me in one direction? I know alot of ppl here are NS fans, but there also quite a few who ride Bataleon from what I've read. Unfortunately, I don't see myself getting the chance to test either up here in Canada's east coast, and I'll have to resort myself to buying either online.

Cheers,
ev0ke

Milo303 · 12-11-2009, 05:48 PM

The NS will have a bit better grip for east coast riding.

Having ridden RC, TBT and the Capita FK tech, I personally feel that the FK tech has the best edge hold out of the 3 techs.

I own a Capita Horroscope and a Bataleon "The Jam" and I've been pondering selling The Jam but Capita doesnt have a wide all mountain FK board available or I would've already done it.

But NS>TBT as far as edge hold goes, imo.

Ghost_Rider_X · 12-11-2009, 07:20 PM

having recently bought a ns premier, saying i'm unbiased would be a lie. however, i too was torn between ns and bataleon. last year i was lucky enough to demo both. the bataleon is a load of fun to ride, but in my opinion if you're not riding perfect conditions or park all the time its not a great everyday east coast board. it has a tendency to wash out with speed on the hard pack and i felt like it was lacking some pop. thats not to say its not an awesome board. if i didn't just buy a premier i would pick up a bataleon asap. its so surfy and smooth edge-to-edge...lots of fun to ride. for an everyday, all-mountain, east coast board the ns rocks it. all-around awesome board...you've read the reviews and know what to expect...great edge hold, lots of pop, very smooth.

BurtonAvenger · 12-11-2009, 11:18 PM

Why would you even ride something that is traditional camber. Oh look our base bevels up woo fucking hoo oh but wait it's camber.

ev0ke · 12-12-2009, 12:20 PM

sweet, thanks for your input mates. Now between the EVo-R and the SL-R, is there a significant difference when it comes to 'pop'? I know the EVO is rated with a softer flex by NS, but there's an evo 155 2010 being sold on this forum for a sick price, and unfortunately his sl-r is too big for me. I don't mind making the compromise as long as the evo is still just as good for jumps (I can do without having to bomb hills at mach speeds :P). Any thoughts?

ev0ke

Milo303 · 12-12-2009, 12:26 PM

I havn't ridden an SL-R but I have been on a Revolver and a Legacy.

I can assure you that the Evo isn't as soft as you're possibly thinking.... Never Summer makes some pretty bulky/stiff boards when compared to some other companies.

Pretty sure the Evo will be just fine for you considering your size.

The Revolver I rode did have more pop then the Legacy imo... I was able to flex the Revolver more which seemed to give me more of a launch.

BigC_ 13 · 12-12-2009, 12:53 PM

I own both the Revolver (wide Evo) and the Goliath, and I gotta say I was split between the two as well on which I liked more, but after more and more days on each I've realized the NS is more fun to ride, I find it has more pop and playfulness and for a park oriented board you can take it anywhere.

Jay29 · 12-12-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ev0ke

sweet, thanks for your input mates. Now between the EVo-R and the SL-R, is there a significant difference when it comes to 'pop'? I know the EVO is rated with a softer flex by NS, but there's an evo 155 2010 being sold on this forum for a sick price, and unfortunately his sl-r is too big for me. I don't mind making the compromise as long as the evo is still just as good for jumps (I can do without having to bomb hills at mach speeds :P). Any thoughts?

ev0ke

Exactly why I went with the EVO. I went with the softer of the two.

12-11-2009, 04:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
ev0ke Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3	stuck on RC and TBT for my next board o7, I've been riding off and on for the past 6 years using a beginner's board. This year, I've decided to take it up a notch as I have more free time and concluded it's time I get a serious board. I'll be carving exclusively on the east coast this year. I like to ride the whole mountain for the most part, but I'm also determined to really focus on kickers and the odd rail or 2. I've been doing alot of reading the past week, and I thought I was decided on NS' R.C. technology.... until I came across Penguin's Bataleon Evil Twin review. After doing some digging on TBT and reading reviews, I'm simply stuck at the x-road. One of my biggest issues with jumps is catching an edge off rotations, and TBT seems like it could be a solution. However, alot of riders are also praising the R.C., such as Angry, for its better edge control. Unfortunately, I haven't come across any extensive opinions by riders who've ridden both and compared, aside from Angry's blog. In the end, I'm mostly looking for something that will help propel me off jumps (I believe 'pop' is the right term) all the while allowing me to enjoy regular runs and the woods. Thus, I believe I've narrowed down the correct models for each technology. NS: EVO-R or SL-R Bataleon: Riot or Goliath I'm 5'9", 64kg/140lbs, so I'm assuming a 155/157 is a proper length (?). So, would anyone be able to sway me in one direction? I know alot of ppl here are NS fans, but there also quite a few who ride Bataleon from what I've read. Unfortunately, I don't see myself getting the chance to test either up here in Canada's east coast, and I'll have to resort myself to buying either online. Cheers, ev0ke

12-11-2009, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ghost_Rider_X Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 161	having recently bought a ns premier, saying i'm unbiased would be a lie. however, i too was torn between ns and bataleon. last year i was lucky enough to demo both. the bataleon is a load of fun to ride, but in my opinion if you're not riding perfect conditions or park all the time its not a great everyday east coast board. it has a tendency to wash out with speed on the hard pack and i felt like it was lacking some pop. thats not to say its not an awesome board. if i didn't just buy a premier i would pick up a bataleon asap. its so surfy and smooth edge-to-edge...lots of fun to ride. for an everyday, all-mountain, east coast board the ns rocks it. all-around awesome board...you've read the reviews and know what to expect...great edge hold, lots of pop, very smooth. Last edited by Ghost_Rider_X; 12-11-2009 at 07:22 PM.

12-11-2009, 11:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,037	Why would you even ride something that is traditional camber. Oh look our base bevels up woo fucking hoo oh but wait it's camber. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

12-12-2009, 12:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
ev0ke Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3	sweet, thanks for your input mates. Now between the EVo-R and the SL-R, is there a significant difference when it comes to 'pop'? I know the EVO is rated with a softer flex by NS, but there's an evo 155 2010 being sold on this forum for a sick price, and unfortunately his sl-r is too big for me. I don't mind making the compromise as long as the evo is still just as good for jumps (I can do without having to bomb hills at mach speeds :P). Any thoughts? ev0ke Last edited by ev0ke; 12-12-2009 at 12:30 PM. Reason: typo

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12-11-2009, 05:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Milo303 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 2,954	The NS will have a bit better grip for east coast riding. Having ridden RC, TBT and the Capita FK tech, I personally feel that the FK tech has the best edge hold out of the 3 techs. I own a Capita Horroscope and a Bataleon "The Jam" and I've been pondering selling The Jam but Capita doesnt have a wide all mountain FK board available or I would've already done it. But NS>TBT as far as edge hold goes, imo.

12-12-2009, 12:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigC_ 13 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Revelstoke BC Posts: 226	I own both the Revolver (wide Evo) and the Goliath, and I gotta say I was split between the two as well on which I liked more, but after more and more days on each I've realized the NS is more fun to ride, I find it has more pop and playfulness and for a park oriented board you can take it anywhere.