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Old 01-05-2010, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bataleon Goliath vs. Never Summer Premier F1-R

I have a 08/09 Bataleon Goliath 154 that I always believed was a bit too small for me, but I got it at a great price. I'm now considering buying another board and now considering a Never Summer since they're easier to find in Colorado retail stores. I've read that Never Summer has technology along the same lines as Bataleon and that their technology also makes catching an edge a lot more difficult than some others. Any truth to this? Will these boards ride similar to each other?
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From what I've read and heard about the Premier, and knowing a little about a Goliath, the Premier is going to be stiffer first off.

And depending on your riding style the TBT can be perfect, or really horrible. I power a lot of my turns, and slam on my brakes, and with TBT you gotta be a bit more gentle or you'll wash out, I found.

The NS tech doesn't work that way.... It's def more stable when it comes to the edges, but you can still catch an edge easier on the RC tech. But if your a decent rider and you know how to slightly detune and edge, catching edges shouldn't be an issue anyways... I mean unless your riding rails and boxes and such, but you wouldn't be buying a Premier if that were the case.

Don't right off a Capita Black Death.... I havn't ridden a Premier but I've been on both a Revolver and a Legacy, and I prefer the Black Death over both for sure. The Legacy felt like a 2x4 and the Revolver was even slightly stiffer then my Black Death I think. I would love to say that a Revolver would even be more playful then a Black Death but I can't really say that.. I only demoed the Revolver so maybe with more time I would unlock the fun inside of a Revolver/Evo
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Those two boards are very different from each other. I own a bataleon goliath and its a pretty soft freestyle all mountain board, while the f1-r, which I just ordered, is a strictly freeride stiff board. The SL-R or EVO-R are probably closer to the stiffness of the Goliath.
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Those two boards are very different from each other. I own a bataleon goliath and its a pretty soft freestyle all mountain board, while the f1-r, which I just ordered, is a strictly freeride stiff board. The SL-R or EVO-R are probably closer to the stiffness of the Goliath.
Exactly. The Bataleon Enemy is a better comparison to the NS Premier F1-R.
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I'm not gonna be hitting any park terrain. I'm just too old for that stuff. I'm relatively new to snowboarding considering last year was my first time and I've only been 3 times with Feb. being my 4th time and 1st time since last April. Do you think the Permier will suit my freeriding needs better than the Goliath? I have a preteen son, I don't think the wife would be digging the graphics on the Capita. My son would be asking to borrow it when he takes a shower.
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I wouldn't get a premier if you are only progressing through the beginner-intermediate stages, even if you don't plan on hitting the parks. A softer more forgiving board will suit you better, something like an SL-R, or just stick with the bataleon. How much do you weigh?
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I weigh 165
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Your binding would cover the "vaginal" area ( =
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154 should be fine in terms of length for you then. I weigh 165 and I ride boards anywhere from 152-159 without much issue, mostly in the 154-155 range
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That's reassuring....so I guess I just solved the issue.
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