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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-12-2017, 09:59 PM Thread Starter
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Board for hardpack days?

Since I can't ride, I window shop!

What would you recommend for those days when everything is crunchy? My NS Raven does great in good conditions and dampens bumps well, but... it's not that happy on hardpack or when it gets icy. Plus I need to plan a trip out east to ride with my friend sometime. NOT taking that board!

I've been eyeing the Arbor Swoon camber... read somewhere that camber would hold an edge better on the hard stuff, any truth to that?

Or I may pull the trigger on a GNU Ladies Choice (finally!). Hmm...

Any other recommendations?


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Burton Custom with traditional camber.
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Burton Custom with traditional camber.
Me thinks OP might prefer a womens board...

Camber definitely holds a better edge.

If you want to stick with NS, The womens Type 2 will handle ice much better than your Raven. Otherwise;

Burton Feelgood, or if you want a twin the Talent Scout.
Arbor Swoon
Jones Twin Sister
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Jones has a new board - Airheart - in the women's line-up which may be interesting: trad. camber with spoon.
Hope I'll get to demo one some day, sounds like an interesting resort deck.
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traditional camber...(with full mag will be the best)

lady's choice will feel like you are riding only 1/2 the board

the bpro with c3...won't give you the bite/edge hold that a traditional camber will

and spoon tech...is more of a "smear" feel like putting cream cheese on a bagel...which is fine on powder and perhaps soft pack

but you want something that has some bite and definite edge control....which is the great thing about camber...and the bad thing about camber...it can throw you...so its a matter of having good riding technique.


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In my experience (and I've tried many many boards), the only thing that really makes a difference on hardpack is the length of the effective edge.

If you can find yourself a used BX (boardercross) board, get out on that and you'll be a changed man. Many of them are narrow, so if you prefer a womens board because they're narrow, a BX board may work.

I started a thread on boards with a long effective edge relative to their length.

Here's ones I've tried/owned:

- Kessler Ride 163
- Volkl Coal Race 158
- Virus Avalanche FLP AFT 160

Here's one's I haven't tried that also may fit the bill:

- Fullbag Diamond Blade (made in Quebec, owner is a forum member)
- Prior BX (made in Canada, near the base of Whistler)
- Donek Saber (Made in USA, in Colorado I think)
- Coiler BX (made in Canada, near Toronto)

Out of all those, the Virus may be the most "all-mountain", while the others I believe are aimed at more carving specific.

Here's my effective edge thread: http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boa...ip-thread.html

If you want to carve hard on hardpack, you need the edge.
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Over-all I find it much more difficult to ride ice. I'm sure that goes without saying but it happened a few times last season that I would go out on ice and think I totally sucked, like I had forgotten how to ride. I remember one day it had rained the day before and wow was I terrible, no edge hold. I had an old shitty board at the time so that didn't help. I now have a Never Summer Proto Type Two so I'm interested to see how it holds on ice. Haven't rode it much yet.

I've also tried to ride switch on ice and it's almost impossible for me but very little trouble in normal conditions. Amazing how the conditions affect turns etc. I think I need really dialed-in technique when riding ice. Not something you want to do drunk or hung-over haha.
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Camber is good, but if you don't have endurance in your legs, you'll feel it at the end of the day.

Magnetraction type edges help as well as keeping them sharp

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Great board for the Ice Coast.

Get it. Wax it. Ride it.
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Camber is good, but if you don't have endurance in your legs, you'll feel it at the end of the day.
That's the biggest difference I notice between the Virus (mild camber with an early rise nose), and the Volkl (more camber with no early rise nose).

End of the day on the Volkl I'm SORE... End of the day on the Virus I'm happy. Both can carve VERY well, the Volkl may be slightly better, but it takes a lot of effort to ride it.
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