Hey guys! So I am looking at a new Powder/Freeride board for my quiver! I've been snowboarding for a while but this is my first year that I've REALLY got into it (I have money and am done with college). I weigh 185-200 (I fluctuate weight a bit) and wear 10.5 boots.
The two I've narrowed it down too are:
-The Yes PYL 162
-Rossignol XV Magtek 167
I currently have a 160 NS Proto Type Two which I love, but I am looking for a Powder/Carving Board since honestly that is more my style. I got the Proto 2 because it was my first board that wasn't some 150 off brand my mom got me for Christmas and is a great all mountain board. My priorities are Powder > Carving > Speed >Trees > Jumps and natural Drops > switch Riding > Buttering > Rails
Edit: Also, I am unsure about getting a 163 or 167 on the Rossi, 167 just seems sooo long. I'm leaning a little more Rossi, since I plan on getting the Yes Optimistic 2017 (my first choice but sold out EVERYWHERE) in August when the next one comes out. I like the idea of having boards from different brands to get the feel for the industry and a variety of boards and what I like.
Where do you ride? If you are on ice a lot, I'd go with the Rossi because magnetraction. Yes has underbite but mag still rules when it comes to edge hold imo, even though some say its grabby on soft terrain. When on pow, edge tech doesn't really come into play anyway.
I Live in Colorado right now So its pretty good snow, but I plan on going to resorts all over (Park City, Whistler, Northstar/Heavenly), Japan, and maybe some places is Chile. I really don't mind grabby though, makes for better carving on groomers that have been skidded into ice!
The best thing for carving on hardpack is full camber and sharp edges, however between those 2 I'd go with the xv. Had one a couple of years ago and it was great the only thing I wish is I'd gone for a longer one as it rides really short.
I think I've heard that before actually! Which is why I was thinking the 167, I'm just hoping it can handle trees at that length. Do you know if anything changed this year besides the graphic compared to the 2016 version?
Two VERY different boards (even more at the sizes you're considering) that only have in common the camber profile.
If you ever intend to do trees, forget about that 167 XV. The 162 PyL seems to be what you're looking for, maybe even the next size up if your heavier and also want to go faster.
I ride a furberg freeride (review coming soon) because I too stepped into the freeride world of riding and while I haven't ridden many boards, I will say that thing is a beast. I encourage anyone to try one and I doubt he/she won't like it. Great on ice and carving (but you still gotta know what your doing) and very floaty in pow. The long effective edge and reverse side cut on the tip and tail make it incredibly stable at speed but also through variable terrain. I have the 168 and size 11 boots and have no problem making quick edge to edge turns. I would say that board agility is far more dependent on tip and tail width than waist width. The 168 is more nimble than my Jones '13 MT 160. There are a few forums around that go into deeper lengths about this board and its revolutionary shaping. However, I will note it doesn't ride like other boards and will take some time to get used to.
Hmm interesting. I checked it out. Not sure if its my cup of tea. Ive also considered the Hovercraft. Do you guys know much about that one compared to the Rossi?
Yeah there's a few boards similar to the XV in the Jones lineup.
The XV is not bad, it would only suffer in the trees a bit compared to a PyL which is simply more all-around oriented than XV; but if you size slightly down it's doable. So 163 XV is not bad.
I haven't ridden the YES PYL, but I have an XV and it's the bee's knees. I friggin love this board. I even bought a second as a spare. It does everything I ask it to do, on command, like a magic carpet. You really can't go wrong with it in my opinion. You sound like you're the same size as me and ride the same terrain. I ride the 163 size and it provides plenty of float for me on powder. It's true that the board does ride small, so a 167 would probably be fine if you went that way, especially if you spend more time at the 200lb end of your spectrum. As for me, I weigh 190-193 and I'm glad that mine's not any bigger than 163. That's because I have a bad tendency to dip the nose in a deep powder turn and it can work my forward knee pretty hard to overcome the force... or I just fall. I'm still getting used to the big nose on it. I'm riding it with full set-back and with Flow NX2 bindings. I might move the bindings forward ~1" to give me more leverage over the nose.
I am 170-175lbs and have the 163 as well. The board feels dead to me, can't get it to respond as quickly as I would want. I wonder if I should try pushing back my stance.
I have been on this board for 3 seasons now and of the boards I own, it is my favourite. I have taken it out west ( Whistler & Banff ) and ride it a lot back east.
What I love about this board is the stability and predictability it offers. It handles powder like a star, yet on a groomer it rails like a dream.
I also love how nimble it is. You can toss it around with great ease and makes tree riding a treat.
I have not been on the Rossi you are considering, but the PYL is one of the best Tapered, Directional, Setback boards out there IMHO.
For my riding style i found the PYL (2014) a bit to stiff thus requiring more effort edge to edge for my riding style. It was also just ok in pow, not super epic unless you get it going hella fast. The Arbor seams like it will be a little quicker edge to edge and not require to be charging all the time.
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