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Old 10-03-2010, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default premier f1, raptor or burton t7 or vapor

ok guys help a brother out..lol..i am an old school rider....getting on in years haha (ok 37 isn't that old....)...i am looking for a new board and i have a few requirements...i ride mainly powder, some back country and some groomers. if i am in the park it is because i am lost, please point me in the right direction!!

looking for a board that floats well, but handles chop like a dream.....also as i age i am finding that my turn initiation is not as quick or as strong as it was when i was younger.....so some help there would be appreciated.

so out of the boards i have listed i am leaning towards the f1, however the weight (so i have heard) is an issue....anyone have an opinion on this?

also..if i go with the NS...should i get the RC? i have never ridden a rc board...not too sure if it will help or hinder my riding? i like the idea of more float in the powder but i am worried about the "squirrelyness" that i have heard about on flats/groomers....so someone set me straight. can a guy that has been riding in the mid 80's, built his first board in wood shop with winter boots screwed to the board and full sheet metal base learn to handle such a high powered board like the f1?

oh and a binding recommendation would be great too....riding the burton driverx and a flow binding now.....not loving the flow all that much...how do the toe cap style bindings compare to a flow or to the old school two strap design?

sorry for all the questions. thanks in advance.

ps. just discovered the jones flagship...so i will throw that one in the mix as well.

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i say go with the raptor but I'm bias that's what ill be riding this year. Never summer says there r.c. doesn't lose edge hold when going fast on groomers. also im pretty sure ever 2011 model in the never summer lineup has r.c.
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R.C really doesn't lose edge hold, even on their park board. Everything in the 2011 lineup does have R.C as well, so it obviously works well if they were going to apply it to their freeride boards. My vote goes to the Raptor, it's supposed to be the new freeride jesus. I have an Evo and I'm amazed how well it does for freeriding at the level of dampness and stiffness it has.
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NS >>>>>>> Burton
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Go with the Premier. Either NS offering is much cheaper than the overpriced Vapor too.
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Go with the Premier. Either NS offering is much cheaper than the overpriced Vapor too.
If he's worried about turn initiation though, wouldn't the Raptor be a bit better choice? Honestly, both the F1 and Raptor would probably be fine but I was under the impression that the raptor was a bit easier to turn.
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I think the F1 or Heritage are your best match.
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Raptor for sure! I've found that the toe caps work best for me. I didn't really like that Ride convertible straps all that much compared to the Flux toe mask.
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so out of the boards i have listed i am leaning towards the f1, however the weight (so i have heard) is an issue....anyone have an opinion on this?
I'm 43 years-old, have an F1, and it sounds as if I ride similarly to you. I don't notice any weight issues except when I'm riding up the lift and the board is putting a strain on the torn medial collateral ligament on my knee. I would like a lighter board for that reason only, but otherwise the Premier absolutely kills.

I may be the only person to notice (or admit to) a handling quirk of the RC design. On hardpack when I'm carving I will sometimes get a weird oscillation in which the board wobbles fiercely on edge. Then again, it could just be pilot error causing the wobble but I've never had it happen on my normal camber boards. Other than this one quirk, and maybe a little heft, I love the board in powder, chop, and bombing full-tilt down the glade.
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