Do it all board to replace Burton Custom V rocker - Snowboarding Forum

jas_kidd32 · 10-10-2010, 08:30 PM

I currently ride an 09-10 Burton Custom V Rocker with Cartel EST's and now I want to upgrade.

I say I spend 50/50 park and groomers. I like bombing it down the slopes but also spend some time doing jumps in the parks and random ones all over the mountain.

I'd say I've past the "beginner" rider tag. I can ride blue with confidence at full speed and can carve it on the black albeit a little sketchy sometimes. I can hit small jumps and want to start getting into doing 180's but my board is sketchy when landing (tail just seems to slide so I have to ride wider stance to counter that). I can mono but not very high and want to start learning to butter but struggle with my board sliding at the tail when popping and holding a mono.

Can anyone recommend a "swiss army knife" snowboard that do all but master of none (I understand there's always a compromise with a "general" board)? I've started looking at Ride Machete, any others?

Things I want to improve from my Custom V:
- More pop
- Ease of landing
- Playful but not to sloppy that it get's sketchy at decent speed

Nivek · 10-10-2010, 09:31 PM

Custom Flying V?

Leo · 10-11-2010, 06:33 AM

Custom Flying V is actually a great upgrade from the V-Rocker in my opinion. If you want to get away from Burton, here's a good list for you.

Burton Custom Flying V Snowboard 2011

Ride:

Dh2

Ride DH2 Mens Snowboard 2011

Machete - The DH2 will have more pop and be more stable at higher speeds, but the Machete is a much better board for park runs, but still handles the mountain very well.

Ride Machete Snowboard 2011

Rome Agent Rocker

Rome Agent Rocker Snowboard 2011

K2: Darkstar - great park board that is also real stable for all-mountain use. This board does excel in the park though.

K2 Darkstar Mens Snowboard 2011

Lib Tech: T-Rice - This board is effin sick. It's a stiff board so if you do rails, there are definitely better options. However, if your main focus is jumps and carving with a lot of stability, this is a great option.

If you provide us with your measurements, we can probably narrow down our list of recommendations.

Weight
Boot Size
Height

jas_kidd32 · 10-11-2010, 05:42 PM

I'm 5'7" and weigh ~165lbs. I wear size 9.5 boots.

I ride a 154 Burton Custom V Rocker now but wouldn't mind getting a shorter board.

snowaddict25 · 10-11-2010, 05:57 PM

Man i am in the same exact position, same size and everything, boards i have looked into and had recommended other than the ones you have are the Never Summer Evo, K2 Parkstar/Fastplant, Ride Crush, Gnu Park Pickle, Lib Tech Skate Banana
And does anyone know anything about the StepChild Chi Borg just heard about it and seems to be in this same category.

jas_kidd32 · 10-17-2010, 08:22 PM

After further research, I've narrowed it down to either a Custom Flying V 151 or Ride DH2 151. The reason being these are the "shorter" boards I can find that fits my boot. According to the frosty rider calculator, the minimum width I can ride is 246mm so these two being in the 250ish will fit just fine.

Since I do freeriding and mostly jumps, I'm inclined towards the stiffer boards with more pop. I will still be learning to jib on these but I definitely don't want a noodle for when riding all around the park.

Does anyone have experience with any of these boards and can give a comparison?

Since my weight falls outside the manufacturers range for these sizes, do you think it'll still be able to handle the speeds? I'm assuming since they are shorter then they will tend to flex more.

Nivek · 10-17-2010, 09:35 PM

Calculators like that are mostly useless. At your weight stay in the 155-156 range for your riding type. I'd recommend the DH2 LE series over the regular DH2. It'll be more stable and more powerful. Also the Ride over the Burton cause of ics making you buy their bindings.

m_jel · 10-17-2010, 09:41 PM

i love my dh if you're looking at going back to camber at all, otherwise i'd say give the dh2 a shot

linvillegorge · 10-17-2010, 09:44 PM

I'm all for buying new boards, but I'm not sure it's going to fix your issue. If you're having problems with sketchy landings on small straight airs, I doubt it's a board issue. I bet you're getting in the backseat which is a common problem.

jas_kidd32 · 12-22-2010, 05:11 PM

I think I'm locking in on a Never Summer SL. How does the SL compare to the Custom V in flex terms?

Which one will be more playful and easier to freestyle on?

10-10-2010, 08:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
jas_kidd32 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 37	Do it all board to replace Burton Custom V rocker (NS SL?) I currently ride an 09-10 Burton Custom V Rocker with Cartel EST's and now I want to upgrade. I say I spend 50/50 park and groomers. I like bombing it down the slopes but also spend some time doing jumps in the parks and random ones all over the mountain. I'd say I've past the "beginner" rider tag. I can ride blue with confidence at full speed and can carve it on the black albeit a little sketchy sometimes. I can hit small jumps and want to start getting into doing 180's but my board is sketchy when landing (tail just seems to slide so I have to ride wider stance to counter that). I can mono but not very high and want to start learning to butter but struggle with my board sliding at the tail when popping and holding a mono. Can anyone recommend a "swiss army knife" snowboard that do all but master of none (I understand there's always a compromise with a "general" board)? I've started looking at Ride Machete, any others? Things I want to improve from my Custom V: - More pop - Ease of landing - Playful but not to sloppy that it get's sketchy at decent speed __________________ Height:5'7" Weight: 165lbs Boards: Never Summer SL 154, Burton X8V 151.5 Bindings: Union Force SL, Burton Malavita Reflex Boots: Salomon Dialogue Last edited by jas_kidd32; 12-22-2010 at 05:32 PM.

10-10-2010, 09:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	Custom Flying V? __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-11-2010, 06:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,212	Custom Flying V is actually a great upgrade from the V-Rocker in my opinion. If you want to get away from Burton, here's a good list for you. Burton Custom Flying V Snowboard 2011 Ride: Dh2 Ride DH2 Mens Snowboard 2011 Machete - The DH2 will have more pop and be more stable at higher speeds, but the Machete is a much better board for park runs, but still handles the mountain very well. Ride Machete Snowboard 2011 Rome Agent Rocker Rome Agent Rocker Snowboard 2011 K2: Darkstar - great park board that is also real stable for all-mountain use. This board does excel in the park though. K2 Darkstar Mens Snowboard 2011 Lib Tech: T-Rice - This board is effin sick. It's a stiff board so if you do rails, there are definitely better options. However, if your main focus is jumps and carving with a lot of stability, this is a great option. If you provide us with your measurements, we can probably narrow down our list of recommendations. Weight Boot Size Height __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

10-11-2010, 05:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
jas_kidd32 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 37	I'm 5'7" and weigh ~165lbs. I wear size 9.5 boots. I ride a 154 Burton Custom V Rocker now but wouldn't mind getting a shorter board. __________________ Height:5'7" Weight: 165lbs Boards: Never Summer SL 154, Burton X8V 151.5 Bindings: Union Force SL, Burton Malavita Reflex Boots: Salomon Dialogue

10-11-2010, 05:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
snowaddict25 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 23	Man i am in the same exact position, same size and everything, boards i have looked into and had recommended other than the ones you have are the Never Summer Evo, K2 Parkstar/Fastplant, Ride Crush, Gnu Park Pickle, Lib Tech Skate Banana And does anyone know anything about the StepChild Chi Borg just heard about it and seems to be in this same category. Last edited by snowaddict25; 10-11-2010 at 06:40 PM.

10-17-2010, 08:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
jas_kidd32 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 37	After further research, I've narrowed it down to either a Custom Flying V 151 or Ride DH2 151. The reason being these are the "shorter" boards I can find that fits my boot. According to the frosty rider calculator, the minimum width I can ride is 246mm so these two being in the 250ish will fit just fine. Since I do freeriding and mostly jumps, I'm inclined towards the stiffer boards with more pop. I will still be learning to jib on these but I definitely don't want a noodle for when riding all around the park. Does anyone have experience with any of these boards and can give a comparison? Since my weight falls outside the manufacturers range for these sizes, do you think it'll still be able to handle the speeds? I'm assuming since they are shorter then they will tend to flex more. __________________ Height:5'7" Weight: 165lbs Boards: Never Summer SL 154, Burton X8V 151.5 Bindings: Union Force SL, Burton Malavita Reflex Boots: Salomon Dialogue Last edited by jas_kidd32; 10-17-2010 at 08:24 PM.

10-17-2010, 09:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	Calculators like that are mostly useless. At your weight stay in the 155-156 range for your riding type. I'd recommend the DH2 LE series over the regular DH2. It'll be more stable and more powerful. Also the Ride over the Burton cause of ics making you buy their bindings. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-17-2010, 09:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
m_jel Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pickering Posts: 574	i love my dh if you're looking at going back to camber at all, otherwise i'd say give the dh2 a shot __________________ redbubble.com/people/mkelly06 snowyunicornlove.blogspot.com

10-17-2010, 09:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,500	I'm all for buying new boards, but I'm not sure it's going to fix your issue. If you're having problems with sketchy landings on small straight airs, I doubt it's a board issue. I bet you're getting in the backseat which is a common problem.

12-22-2010, 05:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
jas_kidd32 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 37	I think I'm locking in on a Never Summer SL. How does the SL compare to the Custom V in flex terms? Which one will be more playful and easier to freestyle on? __________________ Height:5'7" Weight: 165lbs Boards: Never Summer SL 154, Burton X8V 151.5 Bindings: Union Force SL, Burton Malavita Reflex Boots: Salomon Dialogue

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