K2 Believer questions - Snowboarding Forum

rainboarding · 10-18-2010, 09:22 PM

Hi all, new to this forum but I've lurked here a couple days and decided this is the best resource for snowboarding info on the internet

I'm looking to get a K2 Believer for learning jumps and spins in the terrain park this year - I haven't done much park in my 3-year snowboard career thus far and would like to start with a board that isn't clunky like my old morrow right now, which is directional - I tried 180s (both flat land and jumps) in this past season and it's been pretty squirrel-ly; I conclude it's because landing switch on a directional board is a pain. For me part of the terrain park learning this year will include learning how to ride switch comfortably. However, I'd also like to take the Believer and have fun around the rest of the mountain as well. So I have a few questions about the K2 Believer for anyone who's had experience or friends with experience:

1) Is the K2 Believer a match for my riding style? I notice it has "flatline" (which I assume means no camber), will that hurt because I had thought camber would increase pop (ie off the takeoff). The K2 Darkstar is also one I'm thinking about.

2) I'm looking to be fiscally conservative and am looking at last years' models (09-10) and I'm seeing a lot of 151s and 154s available. Given my height/weight (5'9"/155-160lbs) which length would be more optimal for my stats and intended riding style (jumps/kickers AND rest of mountain, no jibbing at all)?

3) I have big-ish feet and corresponding boots, with a mondo size of 28.5 cm, and I've ridden my current board (normal width) so far fine, is there any reason to think this won't hold with a Believer?

Thanks! And sorry because I notice there's a lot of new board threads lately from people like me

m_jel · 10-18-2010, 11:17 PM

darkstar 155

Minger · 10-19-2010, 12:10 AM

I'd say go for the 54. I'm 175 and ride the 09 (cambered) 157 board, and absolutely love it - poppy and fun. the zero camber may force you to change up your ollie a little, but you should still be good.

rainboarding · 10-19-2010, 06:47 PM

thanks 154 sounds good to me!

Nivek · 10-19-2010, 09:10 PM

Darkstar over Believer. The Believer makes a good light-guy powder twin, but not a good learning park board.

m_jel · 10-19-2010, 11:38 PM

i was looking into the believer, and a couple shop guys that i was talking to said it just felt dead with the 0 camber and recommended i go with my other plan for the Ride DH, which none of those shops carried. If they were willing to turn away a sure sale because they truly felt that way about the believer, i wasn't about to second guess. From what I remember, BA rode this year's believer and liked it a lot

*edit: i was looking at the believer last year or the year before when they first introduced flatline to it*

Nivek · 10-20-2010, 12:08 AM

It is a good board. I don't know why they said it felt dead cause of zero camber, its a pretty poppy board. Not like a DH2 or anything, but springy. But again, makes a great lighter guy twin pow board, not a great park board.

rainboarding · 10-20-2010, 02:44 AM

What turns you off from it being a suitable all-mountain board to learn park jumping on (keeping in mind I'll be doing little or no jibbing on it)?

Nivek · 10-20-2010, 12:35 PM

Just the way it rides. Its fairly tortionally stiff. It just doesn't provide all that great of ease on landings for someone learning.

May I suggest a Bataleon Evil Twin or FunKink? Perhaps a CAPiTA Midlife.

rainboarding · 10-21-2010, 09:01 PM

Hmm I can see that making life difficult...I 'll see what deals I can find on those boards mentioned, as I'm still looking to be fiscally conservative if I can (<300). Other boards that popped up during my search for deals are the Nitro Misfit and Capita The Quiver Killer; I searched the forum and it seems that the Nitro Misfit is a good jumping board but is pretty stiff (too stiff?), not much came up for The Quiver Killer...thoughts?

10-18-2010, 09:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
rainboarding Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 99	K2 Believer questions Hi all, new to this forum but I've lurked here a couple days and decided this is the best resource for snowboarding info on the internet I'm looking to get a K2 Believer for learning jumps and spins in the terrain park this year - I haven't done much park in my 3-year snowboard career thus far and would like to start with a board that isn't clunky like my old morrow right now, which is directional - I tried 180s (both flat land and jumps) in this past season and it's been pretty squirrel-ly; I conclude it's because landing switch on a directional board is a pain. For me part of the terrain park learning this year will include learning how to ride switch comfortably. However, I'd also like to take the Believer and have fun around the rest of the mountain as well. So I have a few questions about the K2 Believer for anyone who's had experience or friends with experience: 1) Is the K2 Believer a match for my riding style? I notice it has "flatline" (which I assume means no camber), will that hurt because I had thought camber would increase pop (ie off the takeoff). The K2 Darkstar is also one I'm thinking about. 2) I'm looking to be fiscally conservative and am looking at last years' models (09-10) and I'm seeing a lot of 151s and 154s available. Given my height/weight (5'9"/155-160lbs) which length would be more optimal for my stats and intended riding style (jumps/kickers AND rest of mountain, no jibbing at all)? 3) I have big-ish feet and corresponding boots, with a mondo size of 28.5 cm, and I've ridden my current board (normal width) so far fine, is there any reason to think this won't hold with a Believer? Thanks! And sorry because I notice there's a lot of new board threads lately from people like me

10-18-2010, 11:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
m_jel Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pickering Posts: 574	darkstar 155 __________________ redbubble.com/people/mkelly06 snowyunicornlove.blogspot.com

10-19-2010, 12:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
Minger Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 761	I'd say go for the 54. I'm 175 and ride the 09 (cambered) 157 board, and absolutely love it - poppy and fun. the zero camber may force you to change up your ollie a little, but you should still be good. __________________ Board: Directional Bindings: Burton Missions 07 Boots: Burton Freestyle 07

10-19-2010, 09:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	Darkstar over Believer. The Believer makes a good light-guy powder twin, but not a good learning park board. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-19-2010, 11:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
m_jel Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pickering Posts: 574	i was looking into the believer, and a couple shop guys that i was talking to said it just felt dead with the 0 camber and recommended i go with my other plan for the Ride DH, which none of those shops carried. If they were willing to turn away a sure sale because they truly felt that way about the believer, i wasn't about to second guess. From what I remember, BA rode this year's believer and liked it a lot edit: i was looking at the believer last year or the year before when they first introduced flatline to it __________________ redbubble.com/people/mkelly06 snowyunicornlove.blogspot.com Last edited by m_jel; 10-19-2010 at 11:39 PM. Reason: believer info

10-19-2010, 06:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
rainboarding Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 99	thanks 154 sounds good to me!

10-20-2010, 12:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	It is a good board. I don't know why they said it felt dead cause of zero camber, its a pretty poppy board. Not like a DH2 or anything, but springy. But again, makes a great lighter guy twin pow board, not a great park board. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-20-2010, 02:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
rainboarding Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 99	What turns you off from it being a suitable all-mountain board to learn park jumping on (keeping in mind I'll be doing little or no jibbing on it)?

10-20-2010, 12:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	Just the way it rides. Its fairly tortionally stiff. It just doesn't provide all that great of ease on landings for someone learning. May I suggest a Bataleon Evil Twin or FunKink? Perhaps a CAPiTA Midlife. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-21-2010, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
rainboarding Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 99	Hmm I can see that making life difficult...I 'll see what deals I can find on those boards mentioned, as I'm still looking to be fiscally conservative if I can (<300). Other boards that popped up during my search for deals are the Nitro Misfit and Capita The Quiver Killer; I searched the forum and it seems that the Nitro Misfit is a good jumping board but is pretty stiff (too stiff?), not much came up for The Quiver Killer...thoughts?

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