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NeverSummer SL vs Heritage

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#1 ·
Looking to pick up a new board and have done alot of research and could end up with any number of good boards, but have narrowed it down to the SL or Heritage. Maybe subtle differences, but still looking for some feedback since it is a good chunk of change.

I'm 6'3", 185lbs without gear, size 10.5 boot. Intermediate rider who would rather progress with natural features than park (<5% of my riding) and enjoys from green to black to backcountry. My friends like to ride fast, but I want to play around with fun lines, jumps and tree runs. So I want a do it all board to progress on. I have a season pass at Steven's and will probably get some hiking runs in at Mt. Rainier.

Welcome all opinions on best fit for board and appreciate suggestions for sizing as well.

Thanks in advance.
 
#3 ·
Was just introduced to Steven's at the end of last season and lucked out with so much end of the season new snow. Did hike up Rooster Cone and would love to float down that in powder every run, but realize I lucked out and the conditions aren't always that great.

Size recommendation?
 
#11 ·
I'm 5 foot 10, 140 pounds and ride a 158 Heritage.

With my small size, the 158 is still mad easy to turn on a dime. The RC technology allows you to swing the shit out of the board cuz of the rocker. The larger board rides a lot smaller than you'd think. If your riding mostly pow tho, Id suggest the SL. I'm from steamboat where the pow is as deep as deep can get and sometimes I wish my heritage was a bit softer. The SL kills it in the pow way better than the heritage but it won't hold an edge as well as the Heritage does.

My verdict is the SL. its squirrlier and more playful. If you go bigger you'l still be able to charge with it.
 
#12 ·
The RC technology allows you to swing the shit out of the board cuz of the rocker. The larger board rides a lot smaller than you'd think.
Can't speak about deep pow cuz I'm from the east, but +1 for the RC tech making the board feel a lot smaller. I downsized from a 164 camber to a 161 SL-R. For turning ability in trees and moguls, it feels like it a low 150's board, but for speed and edge hold on ice and hard pack, it feels like the 161 it is. I was considering a 158, but I'm glad I didn't.
 
#14 ·
Go with a 62 minimum since the NW has that heavier coastal snow. People are overlooking that fact plus this year you should get nuked on. Personally as stated I'd go Heritage due to the fact that Stevens Conditions are usually puking heavy wet snow, lots of rock drops, pow that turns to chopped out chunder on weekends from the Seattlites. If I still lived there that would be my pow/freeride stick for sure.
 
#15 ·
hey thanks for the local perspective. Cascade concrete and chunder can definitely describe these conditions more often than not. When getting the new fluff in town yesterday its hard not to want to skip out on work and head up. Still need to build up some more base though.
 
#17 ·
size up are size down?? same float more maneuverability?, same maneuverability extra float? At 165lbs I spent a lot of time on a 165 btx board and found it very nimble, due to the fact that it pivots about the center of the rocker. In the poo fest that is la nina in the cascades i'd be on the 164. (poo is the washington version of pow, after living in montana, what comes down in washington is not "powder") I remember a couple days specifically four years ago where my 161 was not big enough.
 
#18 ·
I don`t know about going up to a 164...I think 164 is getting a bit long for having fun with in tight trees especially. I am 190 pounds and am on a 161 split for 100% back country and it has a rocker tip and tail and floats better in powder than my traditional camber board of 169
How much setback do you have on that board? I'm about the same weight as you, and riding a 159 last year with virtually no setback I really had to work to avoid burying it on a pow day.
 
#20 ·
Rocker can really work wonders. I have a nitro subpop which is rockered in the middle and cambered under the bindings like a NS board. It is a 155 and a noodle and it has no trouble keeping 190lbs worth of me afloat. The stance on it is centered so you need to lean back just a tiny bit. The rocker makes it so that it needs only the tiniest bit of lean to keep the nose up. That rocker between the feet really makes it so even a twin can float like a champ with no real effort though.
Its not as good as my Euphoria that is flat between the bindings and rocker tip & tail though. That one you can lean keep most of your weight on the front foot and it wont sink but it has about 2.75" of setback and a pintail.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Going to chime in with the others and recommend the Heritage for your riding preference and locale. The Heritage is truly an All Mountain ripper...:thumbsup:
Thanks. From other posts, you always seem to have good advice. So length recommendations have been from 158, 160, 162 or bigger (165 max in Heritage). What is your opinion?
Guessing if your are riding a 161 100% backcountry and are about the same wt then you wouldn't say bigger, so 160?
Can still kill the powder but be nimble enough for trees?
 
#22 ·
I'm tellin ya, ANY Neversummer board will hold up ANY mountain condition.

Get the SL. It will still hold an edge but will be poppy and fun at the same time.

The Heritage is really an expert's board thats going to push the rider to the limit every time they go riding. If you have that aggressive style and attitude, the Heritage is for you but remember.... you are going to have to keep up with the Heritage if you get it. I personally own the 11 Heritage. Lots of work, but the more work you put in, the more fun you get out of it.
 
#27 ·
I would consider the Premier F1 more of a powder board and less of the all mountain board that I am looking for. I hear good things about the F1 including that it would be great blowing through chop, but I can't count on there being powder all the time.

Atleast you didn't ask about the park pickle ;)
 
#31 ·
Thanks to everyone who posted in this thread. As another West Coast rider (Mt Baker and local North Vancouver hills) I've been trying to find a great 'new' technology board to replace my aging Burton FL 162. I bought the Lib Dark Series last year but wasn't super happy, and with all the positive feedback on NS boards I figured I might try them.

From their website, I had figured that for our snow (or poo if that's what we're calling it these days ;) ) and my riding, the Heritage was a good choice. And after reading this thread, and a few others on this site, I'm going to go for it and see how it works out. :)
 
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