Bataleon 2012 Q & A - Page 22 - Snowboarding Forum

Wiredsport · 06-23-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by westsiderider

Well i usually ride at local mountains like Big White, Sunpeaks, or Silver star (Canada). Pretty much everyday I ride the main runs and hit the lil jibs and jumps down the run, or hit powy trees if i can find any. After that i usually cut over to the park and and shred thought it, and then take the chairlift back up and do it all over again. I currently have a 2010-2011 Bataleon Riot 155 right now which I use for powy days, and i'm looking at either the Airobic, or Funkink for an every day riding board that will perform good in the park too.

Got it. The Funkink 153 (if you go 2011) or 154 2012 wil be the killer addition to your Riot.

The 2011 is so fun. I haven't ridden the 2012 but that will change come November

Wiredsport · 06-23-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tdc_worm

wired---thx for all of your expertise. can you take a look:

riding experience: 6 years
level: high intermediate
stats: 6'1", 200lbs, size 12 boot (before clothes, helmet, boots, etc)
stance: dont necessarily need a wide board. i usually ride all the way out (i am very long legged) and am naturally duck footed, so toe drag hasnt been an issue yet.
locations: primarily Rockies, take 3-4 trips a year. love JHole, and the Cottonwood Canyons of UT.
conditions: almost always off the groomers, hikes to fresh lines, and into the trees hunting for pow stashes, greens and most blues need not apply.
style: in typical coniditions---go to the top and conquer/jump everything in my path on the way down from hits to jibs to small drops and natural half pipes. like to haul tail. loved the stash parks at JHole. butter my way across groomers in between tree lines. if there is park or pipe in my path it will get my attention, but i usually dont hot lap until the end of the day or during really sub par conditions on the rest of the mountain.
current quiver: Undisputed 167, Smokin Big Wig 162. (have owned a bunch of bananas also).

goal: i fell in love with my TBT undisputed last year. i also had a ripping time on my GFs 159 Omni. i intend to keep my Undisputed for the deep pow days and replace my Big Wig with a TBT board for the average days. The Riot and Goliath (as due the ETAE and the Whatever) have my attention, but i am concerned about one being too noodly and the other being too stiff. i would really consider anything. from descriptions, i have the riot #1, and the goliath #2. What are your thoughts?

First off, a GF with a 159 Omni sounds awwwrite from here. Nice find!

Riot 159 Wide will be insane for you. The Goliath 160 Wide would be unreal as a one board quiver, but you already have major freeride covered and the Riot is untouchable as a big guy all over freestyle power board.

PS: take the extra cm of width and go with the wide. It will work better at any stance with size 12.

Wiredsport · 06-23-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JVee

Hi Wiredsport

I've been riding Libs for the ;last 5 years. I'm now interested in Bataleon. Two boards I'm looking at are the Evil Twin and Goliath. I'm 180cm tall and 92kg's. I'll be riding Japan and Canada, predominately freestyle with powder to boot (I'm from Australia). Can you give me advice on which model may be better for me? I'm looking at the 2012 models.

Stoked to help. Two questions: What foot size? What Libs have you been on?

JVee · 06-23-2011, 07:31 PM

U.S size 10.5, 32 Lashed; Lib Banana Magic both 2011 and 12.

Wiredsport · 06-23-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JVee

U.S size 10.5, 32 Lashed; Lib Banana Magic both 2011 and 12.

The ET 157 will be unreal for you. There is no better way to find your first TBT love than on an ET.

tdc_worm · 06-23-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

First off, a GF with a 159 Omni sounds awwwrite from here. Nice find!

Riot 159 Wide will be insane for you. The Goliath 160 Wide would be unreal as a one board quiver, but you already have major freeride covered and the Riot is untouchable as a big guy all over freestyle power board.

PS: take the extra cm of width and go with the wide. It will work better at any stance with size 12.

haha, agreed...she rips! even have her riding motocross on a full sized bike.
the omni is her pow stick. gonna move her from her Smokin Vixen 148 to a TBT board for her day to day board. she hates girlyfied graphics (vanity is a biatch hahaha, form over function). was thinking either an ET 149 or a Goliath 150 for her 5'7" 130lb frame. she follows me all over the mountain, just a little more risk averse, but still likes to haul, hahaha....

Wiredsport · 06-24-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tdc_worm

haha, agreed...she rips! even have her riding motocross on a full sized bike.
the omni is her pow stick. gonna move her from her Smokin Vixen 148 to a TBT board for her day to day board. she hates girlyfied graphics (vanity is a biatch hahaha, form over function). was thinking either an ET 149 or a Goliath 150 for her 5'7" 130lb frame. she follows me all over the mountain, just a little more risk averse, but still likes to haul, hahaha....

Nice. What is her foot size?

tdc_worm · 06-24-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

Nice. What is her foot size?

7.5 womens

Wiredsport · 06-24-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tdc_worm

7.5 womens

Got it. 7.5 women's = 6 men's = 24 cm = very small.

Width is a killer for small footed women and while some have gotten very good at riding wider boards, almost all really appreciate it when they get on something appropriately narrow.

The waists on the 149 ET and the Goliath 150 are 24.6 cm (and both are going to be ~ 1cm wider again at her stance position). That means that her toes/heels will be ~ a combined inch inside the edges at a normal stance. That makes it impossible to ride a board to its designed potential.

The Violenza 149 will be a great choice if she can live with the graphics.

pete7:19 · 06-24-2011, 04:31 PM

Wiredsport, great thread and some great advice, so here's my story:

I'm 5'9", 160 lbs and wearing a US size 9 Burton Hail.
Currently riding a 2009 Jam 157 for piste charging (at which it excels) a couple of weeks a year when work allows and a few trips to the 100 Yds indoor snow slope just to get my fix in between.

I need to add to it something slower with more flex for two reasons, firstly the Jam is a bit of a beast for 100 Yds of slope, by the time I get it half way to its potential I'm queueing for the lift, secondly on piste I need to escort my beginner wife now and then so I want something more playful to keep me amused while she perfects her turns and picks her butt off the floor, holding the Jam back is a calf muscle killer. I've got little experience at butters, presses or even ollies and don't think the Jam ideal for improving these.
I was looking at K2 WWW and tried out the wifes K2 Luna for laughs when I realised how much I loved TBT, I do enjoy spinning like a loon without catching an edge. I saw the 2012 catalogue online and after reading up on all the awesome looking new TBT found I was leaning towards the new airobic.

So the Jam stays, no question and I want something to add to it, don't need one board that does a bit of everything, just one a bit playful that can handle basic tricks without kicking my butt, maybe the odd rail and kicker too. So jib versus twin, airobic versus ET, disaster too soft for my weight? Your thoughts on board and size would be appreciated.

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JVee Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 179	U.S size 10.5, 32 Lashed; Lib Banana Magic both 2011 and 12.

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pete7:19 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 16	Wiredsport, great thread and some great advice, so here's my story: I'm 5'9", 160 lbs and wearing a US size 9 Burton Hail. Currently riding a 2009 Jam 157 for piste charging (at which it excels) a couple of weeks a year when work allows and a few trips to the 100 Yds indoor snow slope just to get my fix in between. I need to add to it something slower with more flex for two reasons, firstly the Jam is a bit of a beast for 100 Yds of slope, by the time I get it half way to its potential I'm queueing for the lift, secondly on piste I need to escort my beginner wife now and then so I want something more playful to keep me amused while she perfects her turns and picks her butt off the floor, holding the Jam back is a calf muscle killer. I've got little experience at butters, presses or even ollies and don't think the Jam ideal for improving these. I was looking at K2 WWW and tried out the wifes K2 Luna for laughs when I realised how much I loved TBT, I do enjoy spinning like a loon without catching an edge. I saw the 2012 catalogue online and after reading up on all the awesome looking new TBT found I was leaning towards the new airobic. So the Jam stays, no question and I want something to add to it, don't need one board that does a bit of everything, just one a bit playful that can handle basic tricks without kicking my butt, maybe the odd rail and kicker too. So jib versus twin, airobic versus ET, disaster too soft for my weight? Your thoughts on board and size would be appreciated.