Bataleon 2012 Q & A - Page 41 - Snowboarding Forum

Tobotobo · 09-14-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

The Airobic is a little stiffer in the tip and tail than the FK, but it is strange to even say stiffer when talking about the Airobic, because as kilinger mentioned, it is still a very flexy model. The Airobic gives you just the right amount of resistance for presses. If that is your primary interest, you will dig it.

Well, I don't know how to take this now. (this is also adressed to snowklinger) My Fun.Kink, which technically is softer than the airobic, had practically no chatter, but felt extremely stable and locked in on crazy eurocarves, even though it felt pretty soft. From my experience with it, although bataleon gave it a 3.5/10 flex rating, it felt considerably stiffer than expected, probably more like 4.5. It was quite easy and ridiculously fun to press, but felt like it was giving me just a little more resistance than need be. Could the airobic really somehow be so unstable in comparison, if it's less soft and has the exact same contact length, 116cm? Also, i have fairly stiff bindings (forum republic 08's), so i'm slightly covered in terms of stability.
if it matters, i'm not particularly heavy, 68kg/150lb, and at the moment i'm not hitting anything bigger than mid-large-ish kickers, nothing huge. Also, yes i do absolutely love presses, hence how intensely i'm considering stiffness.

again, could someone clarify if my understanding is wrong, that same model boards are softer when you go down a size? I thought Snowboard companies do that to justify their flex-ratings, since a smaller size obviously is for lighter people, that will find the same flex harder to press. am i wrong?

PS: I realize that flex-ratings are far from accurate

ll IrOn CiTy ll · 09-14-2011, 06:05 PM

Me and my brother are leaning towards getting Bataleon boards this season.After a some research Im really digging the "Riot" and the "Evil Twin".We are looking for a park board that will still maintain stability at high speeds.Wich of these two would best suit our needs.Also what size do you recomend..Thanks in advanced

Here is our specs:
5'8 145lbs size 9.5
6'1 215lbs size 12

eastcoast riders..lots of ice!

hoopsthereitis · 09-15-2011, 09:35 AM

Im 6'1 200 lbs with a size 12 as well. I pretty much ride strictly park, like 30 to 40 footers for slopestlye. I just got the 159 2011 riot and i can't wait to use it. I know it'll be pretty hard to press, but i focus many on board slides and popping in and out of rails so it'll be good for that i think. I think that it'll break in pretty well so its not going to be as stiff as it seems, but its still stiff which is nice for a big guy like me. I was just worried about getting the ET classic because I had problems with soft boards last year (rome artifact).

Wiredsport · 09-15-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobotobo

Well, I don't know how to take this now. (this is also adressed to snowklinger) My Fun.Kink, which technically is softer than the airobic, had practically no chatter, but felt extremely stable and locked in on crazy eurocarves, even though it felt pretty soft. From my experience with it, although bataleon gave it a 3.5/10 flex rating, it felt considerably stiffer than expected, probably more like 4.5. It was quite easy and ridiculously fun to press, but felt like it was giving me just a little more resistance than need be. Could the airobic really somehow be so unstable in comparison, if it's less soft and has the exact same contact length, 116cm? Also, i have fairly stiff bindings (forum republic 08's), so i'm slightly covered in terms of stability.
if it matters, i'm not particularly heavy, 68kg/150lb, and at the moment i'm not hitting anything bigger than mid-large-ish kickers, nothing huge. Also, yes i do absolutely love presses, hence how intensely i'm considering stiffness.

again, could someone clarify if my understanding is wrong, that same model boards are softer when you go down a size? I thought Snowboard companies do that to justify their flex-ratings, since a smaller size obviously is for lighter people, that will find the same flex harder to press. am i wrong?

PS: I realize that flex-ratings are far from accurate

If chatter was not an issue for you at your weight on the FK, it will be even less so on the Airobic. The Airobic is a little stiffer. Both are among the softer boards that we sell, but they are definately well loved and ridden very hard by a core group of riders worldwide.

Wiredsport · 09-15-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsthereitis

Im 6'1 200 lbs with a size 12 as well. I pretty much ride strictly park, like 30 to 40 footers for slopestlye. I just got the 159 2011 riot and i can't wait to use it. I know it'll be pretty hard to press, but i focus many on board slides and popping in and out of rails so it'll be good for that i think. I think that it'll break in pretty well so its not going to be as stiff as it seems, but its still stiff which is nice for a big guy like me. I was just worried about getting the ET classic because I had problems with soft boards last year (rome artifact).

At 200 lbs you will love the Riot. That board has monster pop and will resist your weight perfectly, even in presses etc..

Have a great season!

Wiredsport · 09-15-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ll IrOn CiTy ll

Me and my brother are leaning towards getting Bataleon boards this season.After a some research Im really digging the "Riot" and the "Evil Twin".We are looking for a park board that will still maintain stability at high speeds.Wich of these two would best suit our needs.Also what size do you recomend..Thanks in advanced

Here is our specs:
5'8 145lbs size 9.5
6'1 215lbs size 12

eastcoast riders..lots of ice!

You guys will rip best on different boards. He will love the Riot 159 W, you will be stoked with the 152 ET. The Ice coast is never gunna feel the same!

ll IrOn CiTy ll · 09-15-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

You guys will rip best on different boards. He will love the Riot 159 W, you will be stoked with the 152 ET. The Ice coast is never gunna feel the same!

Thanks a lot for your input.What makes the riot better for him,and the ET better for me??I am in NOOO way questioning you,I just want to understand your answer better.Believe me the ET looks a little easier on the wallet,and your input is a huge deciding factor.Im guessing its body weight and the Riot is a little stiffer for the big dogs.??!!Thanks bro.

Paddy12 · 09-15-2011, 11:38 AM

So i have decided on a bataleon for next season, but i cant decide between the goliath, the whatever, and the riot. My current set up is a NS evo so which one would go bestwith that. Im 5'9 145lbs and i ride east coast and this bosrd would be for pow, steeps, all mountain freestyle, and trees. no park other than a few jumps maybe. Thanks for the help

ippy · 09-15-2011, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paddy12

So i have decided on a bataleon for next season, but i cant decide between the goliath, the whatever, and the riot. My current set up is a NS evo so which one would go bestwith that. Im 5'9 145lbs and i ride east coast and this bosrd would be for pow, steeps, all mountain freestyle, and trees. no park other than a few jumps maybe. Thanks for the help

dude, have you thought about the allmtn/freeride rigs? Maybe the omni? Itd maybe be a bit more distinct from your evo which would open up some of your options a bit more... which of course would also add a nice balance to your quiver. You could have the omni for ripping and tearing it up in the slackcountry and on the resort or in the pipe, and the evo for cruising, hangover rides and a bit of resort pow or park laps. With the backshit inserts and the kick on the nose tbt this years omni would be one of my top choices for sure (if i didnt already have a nice pow charger in the charlie). If you want to tone down the freeride a bit you could go with the jam, but honestly i wouldnt give up those inserts, extra nose kick and setback for a twin shape. Plus its surprisingly a softish flex at 5-6-6. (the goliath is a straight 6 and the whatever is a straight 7 whilst the riot is 4-5-4 as if all that somehow describes the board

).

Sorry im hijacking your preferences for something id want in those conditions, but its maybe something to think about since i think its not on everyoens radar - but maybe has a decent shout in this case

Tobotobo · 09-16-2011, 03:59 AM

alright, cool.

Again, would the airobic 151 be softer than the 154?

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ll IrOn CiTy ll -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: BlItZbUrGh.. Posts: 103	Me and my brother are leaning towards getting Bataleon boards this season.After a some research Im really digging the "Riot" and the "Evil Twin".We are looking for a park board that will still maintain stability at high speeds.Wich of these two would best suit our needs.Also what size do you recomend..Thanks in advanced Here is our specs: 5'8 145lbs size 9.5 6'1 215lbs size 12 eastcoast riders..lots of ice! Last edited by ll IrOn CiTy ll; 09-14-2011 at 06:23 PM.

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09-15-2011, 09:35 AM	#403 (permalink)
hoopsthereitis Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3	Im 6'1 200 lbs with a size 12 as well. I pretty much ride strictly park, like 30 to 40 footers for slopestlye. I just got the 159 2011 riot and i can't wait to use it. I know it'll be pretty hard to press, but i focus many on board slides and popping in and out of rails so it'll be good for that i think. I think that it'll break in pretty well so its not going to be as stiff as it seems, but its still stiff which is nice for a big guy like me. I was just worried about getting the ET classic because I had problems with soft boards last year (rome artifact).

09-15-2011, 11:38 AM	#408 (permalink)
Paddy12 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 78	So i have decided on a bataleon for next season, but i cant decide between the goliath, the whatever, and the riot. My current set up is a NS evo so which one would go bestwith that. Im 5'9 145lbs and i ride east coast and this bosrd would be for pow, steeps, all mountain freestyle, and trees. no park other than a few jumps maybe. Thanks for the help

09-16-2011, 03:59 AM	#410 (permalink)
Tobotobo Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3	alright, cool. Again, would the airobic 151 be softer than the 154?