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What is it like first riding TBT? I cannot help but to continue thinking that once I get on the board and start riding that I will feel like my board will have a teeter-totter effect because of the TBT.
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What is it like first riding TBT? I cannot help but to continue thinking that once I get on the board and start riding that I will feel like my board will have a teeter-totter effect because of the TBT.
If anything it's the exact opposite.
First ride on my Jam and I had to tweak my style a fair bit. Until then I'd been gently leaning into turns using the edges, the raised edges on TBT don't catch so easily and you are forced to be more definite. It forced me to commit to the turn more and has made me a much more solid and stable rider as a result.
There is no instability as you suggest, just a good solid stable ride and very few nasty surprises. It's pretty rare for you to spend much time with the board flat to the ground when riding, unless you're just pointing the nose straight downhill and letting go, so most of the time the stability of a flat base is only used when you're standing still at the bottom of the chair lift.
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What is it like first riding TBT? I cannot help but to continue thinking that once I get on the board and start riding that I will feel like my board will have a teeter-totter effect because of the TBT.
The first ride on TBT depends a little on where you are coming from. If you have been riding a fully cambered conventional deck, then you will immediately appreciate the snag free feel from the lifted edges at the contact points. It may take a few runs for you to get the feel for exactly when the full edge will engage, but this is very minor and it happens early on.

If you are coming from a rockered design, there is no adjustment period. You will notice the extra punch of camber right away and the catch free feel of your old rocker board is still there.

There is no teeter totter effect because A. If you meant nose to tail rock, it is not there because these boards are all cambered and B. If you meant edge to edge, that is not an issue because the baords are flat between the inserts (edge to edge). TBT is only present out past the inserts.
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The first ride on TBT depends a little on where you are coming from. If you have been riding a fully cambered conventional deck, then you will immediately appreciate the snag free feel from the lifted edges at the contact points. It may take a few runs for you to get the feel for exactly when the full edge will engage, but this is very minor and it happens early on.

If you are coming from a rockered design, there is no adjustment period. You will notice the extra punch of camber right away and the catch free feel of your old rocker board is still there.

There is no teeter totter effect because A. If you meant nose to tail rock, it is not there because these boards are all cambered and B. If you meant edge to edge, that is not an issue because the baords are flat between the inserts (edge to edge). TBT is only present out past the inserts.

That is good to know because I am coming from a cambered deck. If TBT is only present from the bindings out how will I fell the TBT? Once I apply my weight and start riding the TBT then touches the surface?
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That is good to know because I am coming from a cambered deck. If TBT is only present from the bindings out how will I fell the TBT? Once I apply my weight and start riding the TBT then touches the surface?
Good question. When weighted and running flat the deck has full length contact surface from wide point to wide point on the center line, but at the tip and tail the wide points are not in contact. When edging it takes only a little lean to engage the edges. The idea is to create more edge when you want it, less when you don't.
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Good question. When weighted and running flat the deck has full length contact surface from wide point to wide point on the center line, but at the tip and tail the wide points are not in contact. When edging it takes only a little lean to engage the edges. The idea is to create more edge when you want it, less when you don't.
Okay, thanks that makes much more sense now.
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Hi! I have a 2011 ET Classic. Just wondering what the factory bevel is and if i should take it to a shop for tuning to a different bevel. I will be using it for a little all mountain, mostly park.
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Hey, how does the TBT handle on rails, like doing blunts, and tail slides towards the tips of the board. Does the narrower base make it harder to not fall forward or backward?
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hi Wiredsport, really appreciate what you're doing for the community with all your feedback! So now.. I must.. ask

So last season I had a YES Great Dudes then picked up late season a fun.kink US edition. Needless to say I sold the YES. This season, looking to add another Bataleon to my collection. I'm leaning towards the 153 or 156 Whatever (despite the extruded base). I like steeps, bombing, tree runs and just random fun.. just all around fun really..I'm 5'8, 157lbs, size 7 Salomon boots.. -12/9 (I dont recall, too lazy to look for my board since in storage). Can you recommend a sizing? THANKS!

It was either this, or get a 2011 154 (?) Riot .. what do you think?

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hi Wiredsport, really appreciate what you're doing for the community with all your feedback! So now.. I must.. ask

So last season I had a YES Great Dudes then picked up late season a fun.kink US edition. Needless to say I sold the YES. This season, looking to add another Bataleon to my collection. I'm leaning towards the 153 or 156 Whatever (despite the extruded base). I like steeps, bombing, tree runs and just random fun.. just all around fun really..I'm 5'8, 157lbs, size 7 Salomon boots.. -12/9 (I dont recall, too lazy to look for my board since in storage). Can you recommend a sizing? THANKS!

It was either this, or get a 2011 154 (?) Riot .. what do you think?
Hi OL.

The Whatever 153 will be incredible for you but my question is what would you be looking for it to add/change to your quiver. Will it replace you Funkink? If so, it is the right choice for the riding that you have described. The core moves frome tough core to Core Core, which means more pop and response. As always a size 7 foot brings its problems so I would definately opt for the smaller size (over the 156).

Thanks!
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