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Trox · 09-10-2012, 05:45 PM

I am having a problem setting up my wife’s new 2012 Feelbetter with 2012 Gnu Women’s Park bindings. All the screws that came with the bindings (14mm) are too long and bound up on the bottom of the insert before the washer engages the disk. Thankfully they did not push in to the base or damage the insert only the screw threads. I have also tested a Burton disk with a 16mm and the Gnu disk with a 13mm they both engage the washer to the disk, but I can see it starting to damage the bottom threads. Do all Bataleon’s have shallow inserts requiring a hunt for shorter hardware?

Wiredsport · 09-10-2012, 06:45 PM

Hi Trox,

This is a combination of screw length, washer thickness and recess, and insert depth. I remember that Gnu or Roxy (maybe both) sent around new hardware kits after having shipped their 2012 bindings last year. Do you know if the hardware on yours had been swapped out? Likely worth an email to the seller or to Gnu. Post up a pic of the hardware you were sent with a reference (measuring tape, ruler, etc) and we will be happy to compare to the correct kit and if we can assist we will get you straightened away.

oldlady · 09-11-2012, 09:28 AM

Wiredsport; I just ordered a 2012 153 Whatever from you. Crazy cheap!

Thanks for your feedback and help you've provided

Wiredsport · 09-11-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by oldlady

Wiredsport; I just ordered a 2012 153 Whatever from you. Crazy cheap!

Thanks for your feedback and help you've provided

STOKED! You are in for a great winter.

Thanks for your support.

Trox · 09-11-2012, 04:50 PM

I do not know if the hardware was changed. I did compare this hardware to my 2012 Park bindings I used on my 2010 Skate Banana and 2012 Park Pickle (purchased from Wiredsport

) and they are the same length. I received an email today from Mervin and they said M6x14mm and that is what the picture shows.

Wiredsport · 09-11-2012, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trox

I do not know if the hardware was changed. I did compare this hardware to my 2012 Park bindings I used on my 2010 Skate Banana and 2012 Park Pickle (purchased from Wiredsport

) and they are the same length. I received an email today from Mervin and they said M6x14mm and that is what the picture shows.

Yessir, that is the correct hardware. A few thoughts (it may be none of these). The baseplate/disc combo on the park bindings was a little "picky" last year. The disc was very thin and it was possible for it to be placed in a way where it tilted slightly. If tightened in that position then the "low" screw(s) could potentially bottom out.

Also, Loc-Tite can bunch or flake in. That can cause a false bottom or block the screw.

We did not find an insert issue with Bataleon 2012, but it is always a good measure to check inserts for resin that could have deposited during manufacturing.

Let me know if any of this helps.

Trox · 09-11-2012, 08:57 PM

Thanks for your suggestions I'll try those

joelseph · 09-11-2012, 11:39 PM

Hey Wired what size board would you suggest for me? I'm looking for a fun jib board and have com0e to favor the airobic. I am 5'8" 140 lbs and size 10 boot. Thinking about the 154 or possibly 151? Would there be a big difference?

Wiredsport · 09-12-2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelseph

Hey Wired what size board would you suggest for me? I'm looking for a fun jib board and have com0e to favor the airobic. I am 5'8" 140 lbs and size 10 boot. Thinking about the 154 or possibly 151? Would there be a big difference?

For a jib deck the 151 will be awesome. With the 154 there is a 2 cm difference in contact length, a fraction of width, but at your weight the 151 will be great. If you want to sneak a little more well rounded performance out of it then you could notch up to the 154 (but in that case we would likely suggest another model).

joelseph · 09-12-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiredsport

For a jib deck the 151 will be awesome. With the 154 there is a 2 cm difference in contact length, a fraction of width, but at your weight the 151 will be great. If you want to sneak a little more well rounded performance out of it then you could notch up to the 154 (but in that case we would likely suggest another model).

Sounds good man. Definitely appreciate the advice. Tell your boss you need a raise

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Trox Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Alaska Posts: 23	I do not know if the hardware was changed. I did compare this hardware to my 2012 Park bindings I used on my 2010 Skate Banana and 2012 Park Pickle (purchased from Wiredsport) and they are the same length. I received an email today from Mervin and they said M6x14mm and that is what the picture shows.

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09-10-2012, 05:45 PM	#681 (permalink)
Trox Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Alaska Posts: 23	I am having a problem setting up my wife’s new 2012 Feelbetter with 2012 Gnu Women’s Park bindings. All the screws that came with the bindings (14mm) are too long and bound up on the bottom of the insert before the washer engages the disk. Thankfully they did not push in to the base or damage the insert only the screw threads. I have also tested a Burton disk with a 16mm and the Gnu disk with a 13mm they both engage the washer to the disk, but I can see it starting to damage the bottom threads. Do all Bataleon’s have shallow inserts requiring a hunt for shorter hardware?

09-11-2012, 09:28 AM	#683 (permalink)
oldlady Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 138	Wiredsport; I just ordered a 2012 153 Whatever from you. Crazy cheap! Thanks for your feedback and help you've provided

09-11-2012, 08:57 PM	#687 (permalink)
Trox Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Alaska Posts: 23	Thanks for your suggestions I'll try those

09-11-2012, 11:39 PM	#688 (permalink)
joelseph Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 15	Hey Wired what size board would you suggest for me? I'm looking for a fun jib board and have com0e to favor the airobic. I am 5'8" 140 lbs and size 10 boot. Thinking about the 154 or possibly 151? Would there be a big difference?