Bataleon 2012 Q & A - Snowboarding Forum

Wiredsport · 02-03-2011, 09:14 AM

Hi guys,

Back from SIA in Denver and just visited a long and winding thread here full of questions about 2012 Bataleon.

I spent a bunch of time with Bataleon guys and will be happy to answer any Q's abot the upcoming line.

As an up front, Bataleon had a breakthrough year in 2011 and is going to explode in 2012. TBT has come of age! On a graphics front, the boards look insane (way better even than the pictures I am seeing). A new pressing process allows the TBT to show through the topsheet. This is not a performance thing, but it does help riders to visualize the tech.

The Evil Twin SE and the Women's FeelBetter (yeaaahh!) look ill.

STOKED!!!!!

phile00 · 02-03-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

Hi guys,

Back from SIA in Denver and just visited a long and winding thread here full of questions about 2012 Bataleon.

I spent a bunch of time with Bataleon guys and will be happy to answer any Q's abot the upcoming line.

As an up front, Bataleon had a breakthrough year in 2011 and is going to explode in 2012. TBT has come of age! On a graphics front, the boards look insane (way better even than the pictures I am seeing). A new pressing process allows the TBT to show through the topsheet. This is not a performance thing, but it does help riders to visualize the tech.

The Evil Twin SE and the Women's FeelBetter (yeaaahh!) look ill.

STOKED!!!!!

This is awesome. Bataleon is a really cool company and I think they make great boards. I've ridden two and have been pretty stoked on both. It was cool to see Halldor warming up on the 2012 ET. It's legit technology and it's neat to see that Bataleon is the only company doing it. I have two boards in my quiver now, Burton Custom cambered and Bataleon ET.

As far as questions- are they changing the TBT specs on any of their classic boards? Are they coming out with any new models? Any new tech?

EDIT: I scoped out some pictures and the TBT looks more drastic on a lot of boards this year. The 08/09 Goliath and the 10/11 ET seem to have the right amount of TBT in that they're not catchy and perform quite well. They had a good balance between carving performance and playfulness. I hope the more drastic TBT (if my eyes are correct) doesn't unbalance that too much.

Wiredsport · 02-03-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by phile00

This is awesome. Bataleon is a really cool company and I think they make great boards. I've ridden two and have been pretty stoked on both. It was cool to see Halldor warming up on the 2012 ET. It's legit technology and it's neat to see that Bataleon is the only company doing it. I have two boards in my quiver now, Burton Custom cambered and Bataleon ET.

As far as questions- are they changing the TBT specs on any of their classic boards? Are they coming out with any new models? Any new tech?

Yes.

The biggest change is to the TBT structure itself. For 2012 TBT extends further out to the tip and tail. Where it used to end at the contact points, it now runs smothly all the way to the tips. The nose and tail ramps have been updated on every model becoming moderately longer and smoother. Along with the TBT change, this dramatically smoothes the contours and reduces petential grab spots. These are further refinements to an already refined product. You will also see a reshaping of the tip and tail to more blunted outlines. This is great for reduced swing weight, stability in presses, power in ollies, etc. 4 different carbon layups are being used in different models in 2012.

You will also see additions of 4 new models: The Disaster Twin at $359.95, The FeelBetter Women's Twin at $349.95, Whatever All mountain Freestyle at $399.95, Enemy All mountain Freestyle at $799.95

We are stoked to see 3 new models under $400.00! As Bataleon grows it becomes more economical for them to bring this insane tech at lower price points.

So cool to see core products like this exploding.

phile00 · 02-03-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

Yes.

The biggest change is to the TBT structure itself. For 2012 TBT extends further out to the tip and tail. Where it used to end at the contact points, it now runs smothly all the way to the tips. The nose and tail ramps have been updated on every model becoming moderately longer and smoother. Along with the TBT change, this dramatically smoothes the contours and reduces petential grab spots. These are further refinements to an already refined product. You will also see a reshaping of the tip and tail to more blunted outlines. This is great for reduced swing weight, stability in presses, power in ollies, etc. 4 different carbon layups are being used in different models in 2012.

You will also see additions of 4 new models: The Disaster Twin at $359.95, The FeelBetter Women's Twin at $349.95, Whatever All mountain Freestyle at $399.95, Enemy All mountain Freestyle at $799.95

We are stoked to see 3 new models under $400.00! As Bataleon grows it becomes more economical for them to bring this insane tech at lower price points.

So cool to see core products like this exploding.

Wow, the TBT is extended for all models. That's really interesting. I was actually going to mention in my first post that I had hoped they made the tip/tail thinner like ride/burton boards. I like the look of the new blunted shapes. I'm excited to read some reviews once people get on these. I know why they elongated the nose and tail... My ET classic sucks ass in powder. It is literally bearable and that's about it. Now it seems these new designs really will trump rocker designs in just about every category.

Just thought this was cool> Looking at the general board specs from 08/09 to 10/11 The 08/09 149 Goliath (discontinued size) has the same effective edge as the 10/11 153 Goilath. I bet all the specs are the same. not sure about 09/10 but it looks like they've already elongated the nose and tail as the years progressed. Specs can be compared with the two links below

Bataleon Goliath Snowboard 2009 | evo
BATALEON SNOWBOARDS | Triple Base Tech, the best thing to happen to snowboards since edges.

xB01S0NxBARRYx · 02-03-2011, 02:21 PM

If you can remember, what are the smallest sizes for all the 2012 lineup? Thanks man

Wiredsport · 02-03-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xB01S0NxBARRYx

If you can remember, what are the smallest sizes for all the 2012 lineup? Thanks man

Bataleon Disaster 2012 - 148
Bataleon Airobic 2012 - 148
Bataleon Distortia 2012 - 143
Bataleon Evil Twin 2012 - 149
Bataleon Evil Twin Artist Edition 2012 - 152
Bataleon Riot 2012 - 151
Bataleon Fun Kink 2012 - 148
Bataleon FeelBetter 2012 - 143
Bataleon Whatever 2012 - 150
Bataleon Goliath 2012 - 150
Bataleon Violenza 2012 - 146
Bataleon The Jam 2012 - 156
Bataleon Enemy 2012 - 157
Bataleon Omni 2012 - 158
Bataleon Undisputed 2012 - 163

xB01S0NxBARRYx · 02-03-2011, 03:45 PM

thanks. When is the release date? Im actually curious as to when most companies release all the 2012 gear. I don't want to buy something full price when the next years product comes out in 2 months

Wiredsport · 02-03-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xB01S0NxBARRYx

thanks. When is the release date? Im actually curious as to when most companies release all the 2012 gear. I don't want to buy something full price when the next years product comes out in 2 months

Early fall is typical. Bataleon is great about getting product on the shelves early. This year we received them at the end of August.

WHOisDAN · 02-03-2011, 03:53 PM

Is Bataleon the only company that has a synthduded base? Not quite sintered?

How does the Bataleon Evil Twin compare to the Never Summer Evo in terms of stiffness?

I thought the 2011 Goliath felt like a freeride board compared to my Never Summer SL.

I'm glad to see more sizes. The 149 Evil Twin looks very tempting.

Nivek · 02-03-2011, 05:08 PM

ETs a just a bit stiffer in the tips than an Evo. More well rounded.

Also, the Whatever was one of the most fun boards I have ridden.

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xB01S0NxBARRYx Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 21	If you can remember, what are the smallest sizes for all the 2012 lineup? Thanks man

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xB01S0NxBARRYx Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 21	thanks. When is the release date? Im actually curious as to when most companies release all the 2012 gear. I don't want to buy something full price when the next years product comes out in 2 months

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WHOisDAN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 113	Is Bataleon the only company that has a synthduded base? Not quite sintered? How does the Bataleon Evil Twin compare to the Never Summer Evo in terms of stiffness? I thought the 2011 Goliath felt like a freeride board compared to my Never Summer SL. I'm glad to see more sizes. The 149 Evil Twin looks very tempting.