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Once again it's impossible because if you take a wet lam lay up vs a prepreg lay up the boards ride so different.


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I never said it had to be one number to describe the flex. Just a simple torsional test and a 3 point bend test and be done with it. If different parts of the board have different amounts of flex than so be it. At least those numbers will be more useful than an arbitrary flex-o-meter.

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I never said it had to be one number to describe the flex. Just a simple torsional test and a 3 point bend test and be done with it. If different parts of the board have different amounts of flex than so be it. At least those numbers will be more useful than an arbitrary flex-o-meter.
I believe I just said that.
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I believe I just said that.
Yes, among a bunch of other BS.

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Bataleon is a great example of why not. The ET is a 5/3/5. The Airobic is a 4/2/4. And the Funkink is a 3.5/3.5/3.5. How do you give each one of these boards a single number? The FK is stiffer between the feet than the ET and Airobic, but its tips are softer than both.

Which board is stiffer?
Where did those numbers come from then? Did they just pull them out of their asses? Did they try bending the board with their hands and come up with a ballpark estimate? If they can assign meaningless numbers like that to different segments of the boards, why can't they calculate real properties? It's not difficult to cantilever a snowboard.

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While I agree here, I'd just give local shops more business by going, trying for yourself, and buying boards there; or at the very least, trying them there and then buying online.


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Where did those numbers come from then? Did they just pull them out of their asses? Did they try bending the board with their hands and come up with a ballpark estimate? If they can assign meaningless numbers like that to different segments of the boards, why can't they calculate real properties? It's not difficult to cantilever a snowboard.
You want to know where flex ratings in boots, bindings, and boards come from? It's the marketing team and snowboard team sitting around going well it feels like this so we'll call it a 9 or it's soft we'll call it a 2.


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You want to know where flex ratings in boots, bindings, and boards come from? It's the marketing team and snowboard team sitting around going well it feels like this so we'll call it a 9 or it's soft we'll call it a 2.
Scientific indeed.

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Scientific indeed.
Back off man I'm a scientist!


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