Freeride Equipment 2011 for good carving - Snowboarding Forum

agoston.berko · 02-09-2011, 12:11 PM

I want to carve with softboots. Not extreme carving, only what is possible with softboots.

I want a FASTEC bindings on my board because it's comfy for me. Maybe: SP Mountain LTD (FLEX9)
I need some stiff boots. Maybe Burton Driver X (FLEX9)

I need board recommandations but if you say that
SP Mountain LTD Fastec bindings and Burton Driver X
is not the best suited for my goal, than I will modify them too.

So boards:
-Salomon Burner 2011 166cm (maybe too straight line carves, too high speed)
-F2 Eliminator 166cm (maybe not the best for carving and too aggresive)
-F2 Eliminator Carbon 166cm (maybe to much for 550Euro and too aggresive)
-Palmer Platinum (hard to get)
-Palmer Crown
-Neversummer Raptor (maybe the best choice, maybe too fast)
-Arbor A-Frame (maybe durability not so good)
-NiDecker ... (maybe best choice)
-Jones Flagship
-Rossignol Experience

no pipe
no big jumps
little powder

90% CARVE on PISTEEEE

82kg
185cm

NO CUTTED RACEBOARDS PLEASE !
AND NO HARDBOOTS !

Thanks

KIRKRIDER · 02-09-2011, 12:24 PM

I am immensely enjoying my A-Frame...K2cinch CTX and Burton Driver X setup. The A-Frame is REALLY fast on piste, stable and mono-rail like carves, especially with the driver-x flex inserts (they stiffen the boots 3X) and a lot of fun in powder too.
they CTXs are so fast to strap in...
AS for durability...I don't se any particular issue.
I ride mostly on powder, and carve when it's not a pow day...A-Frame is perfect for that. Very aggressive and responsive board.

TLN · 02-09-2011, 12:27 PM

First really interesting thread IMO =))

1st: Board.
Eliminator is ok. Pricey but carves well. I think it aint too agressive.
NS Raptor is a good choice too.
Imho this depend on where do you live. If In Europe get Elim(they're made in Eurore, afaik), if in US get Raptor.

There's one more board you should look at: Elan Vertigo. Stiff and soild. And it cheaper than F2, but as goos as elim(it's all about brands).

Other boards are a good choice, but i'd choose from this 3 boards.

2nd. Boots.

Driver X is a definately good choice, but you should look at:
Salomon Malamute: Flex 9/10, SBX riders choice(so as Driver X). I heard some say: if salomon fits well, you'd fell in love with em, and wont change for any other. If not, Just get another one. I got malamutes and really happy with em, they fit like a glove.
Nitro Team. Stiff and responsive.

I know that Driver X and Malamutes are the best for SBX, this is what you should look at. I'm not saying Drivers are bad, but just give Malamutes a try, if you're able to wear it for a while.

3re Binders.
Flow Frx are used for a softboot carving very often, They got a very good "side support" because of big strap. Haven't tried 'em yet, and AFAIK, there's no FRX in XL in Kazachstan this year(dealer told so). Anyway i got CADs.
Can't comment on SP, but i believe that'd be a nice choice too.

PS. Get and elevators or palmer plates. That does reaally make a difference.
I'm interested in a softboot carving, PM if you got any questions/ideas.

agoston.berko · 02-09-2011, 01:18 PM

"...First really interesting thread" ? :-) nice to hear that TLN

i already tried myself the eliminator (not the carbon version) and was phe-no-me-nal.
but maybe i'm looking for a more smooth ride, not too aggresive.
or maybe only because of the f2 eli dangerous design, i believe that under my foot there is a monster. (bit of placebo like)
but it's true that i like fast edge-to-edge ride's.
i already tried sp brotherhood 2011 bindings but it was not stiff enough for me (only flex:6). but the quality was exceptional, and 5sec to "click".

i heard that flow bindings are cheap toys but maybe the NXT-FRX is a well constructed modell (one of the most expensive stuff there).
K2 cinch ? never used them. in the past i had K2 and the materials there are world-class, i know that for sure.
can anybody tell me why is skiing more popular then snowboarding ? ...i know, because of the fu*king binding-time! i hate classic bindings.
What about the burton SLX ? is it worth spending 500$ on boots ?
i'm the practical guy, so right now the most interesting thing for me about boots is BOA-system !!! what about DC status (using BOA) ???
for me flex EIGHT is minimum for softboot-carving: board + binding + boots
why is that F2 Intec Thunder (and similar) inventions are gone (and disappeard) ? who the hell made that bad decision ?

ok, i will think about the arbor a-frame again, but eliminator looks more attractive from material point (... durability).

thank you pawlo and TLN

pawlo, do you have a dog ?

i know that eliminator is made in austria
arbor ? i hope not in china (then i would understand durability - fu*king mass production boards - just troubles).

baddmaddy · 02-09-2011, 01:25 PM

Also take a look at the Donek Incline. Doneks are very popular with the hardboot crown over on Snowboard Carving, Racing, Alpine Snowboarding - Boards, Boots, Bindings, Reviews: Bomber Online in Summit County, Colorado: Welcome!

Salomon Malamutes would also be my #1 choice for a stiff freeride boot.

agoston.berko · 02-09-2011, 01:48 PM

thank you baddmaddy

TLN do you mean this one?:
Palmer Plates Rock - Review of Palmer Power Link System Standard Lifters from Backcountry.com
is it compatible with every board (not the burton rail) ?

KIRKRIDER · 02-09-2011, 02:10 PM

No man...just trying to spell my name..Paolo

agoston.berko · 02-09-2011, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawlo

No man...just trying to spell my name..Paolo

ok, understood
sorry

skip11 · 02-09-2011, 04:55 PM

Maybe checkout the Burton Custom X?

AAA · 02-09-2011, 05:14 PM

My wife has a Donek Incline. She's still learning, but she likes it alot. We have her set up with very forward angles to get her carving well. Crappy Flow bindings for now, but she'll upgrade when she starts to take off and needs more support. The Incline is pretty much an all mountain freeride board intended to carve pretty well.

Donek also makes a couple of softboot-specific carving boards called the Razor and Saber, which seem to be very well received. If you intend to freecarve 90% of the time, then one of those would probably be a great board for you. Everything, I believe, can be custom tweaked from Donek, too...stiffness, sidecut, lengths, widths, topsheet, etc. You can look them up at Donek custom snowboards online snowboard shop snowboard company order buy.

02-09-2011, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
agoston.berko Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 17	Freeride Equipment 2011 for good carving I want to carve with softboots. Not extreme carving, only what is possible with softboots. I want a FASTEC bindings on my board because it's comfy for me. Maybe: SP Mountain LTD (FLEX9) I need some stiff boots. Maybe Burton Driver X (FLEX9) I need board recommandations but if you say that SP Mountain LTD Fastec bindings and Burton Driver X is not the best suited for my goal, than I will modify them too. So boards: -Salomon Burner 2011 166cm (maybe too straight line carves, too high speed) -F2 Eliminator 166cm (maybe not the best for carving and too aggresive) -F2 Eliminator Carbon 166cm (maybe to much for 550Euro and too aggresive) -Palmer Platinum (hard to get) -Palmer Crown -Neversummer Raptor (maybe the best choice, maybe too fast) -Arbor A-Frame (maybe durability not so good) -NiDecker ... (maybe best choice) -Jones Flagship -Rossignol Experience no pipe no big jumps little powder 90% CARVE on PISTEEEE 82kg 185cm NO CUTTED RACEBOARDS PLEASE ! AND NO HARDBOOTS ! Thanks

02-09-2011, 12:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
KIRKRIDER Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,212	I am immensely enjoying my A-Frame...K2cinch CTX and Burton Driver X setup. The A-Frame is REALLY fast on piste, stable and mono-rail like carves, especially with the driver-x flex inserts (they stiffen the boots 3X) and a lot of fun in powder too. they CTXs are so fast to strap in... AS for durability...I don't se any particular issue. I ride mostly on powder, and carve when it's not a pow day...A-Frame is perfect for that. Very aggressive and responsive board. __________________ 2012/13 -12- Kirkwood days Arbor A-Frame 158 2009-10 Jeremy Jones Hovercraft 156, 2011/12 Burton Driver-X K2-Cinch-CTX Subaru WRX 06

02-09-2011, 01:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
agoston.berko Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 17	"...First really interesting thread" ? :-) nice to hear that TLN i already tried myself the eliminator (not the carbon version) and was phe-no-me-nal. but maybe i'm looking for a more smooth ride, not too aggresive. or maybe only because of the f2 eli dangerous design, i believe that under my foot there is a monster. (bit of placebo like) but it's true that i like fast edge-to-edge ride's. i already tried sp brotherhood 2011 bindings but it was not stiff enough for me (only flex:6). but the quality was exceptional, and 5sec to "click". i heard that flow bindings are cheap toys but maybe the NXT-FRX is a well constructed modell (one of the most expensive stuff there). K2 cinch ? never used them. in the past i had K2 and the materials there are world-class, i know that for sure. can anybody tell me why is skiing more popular then snowboarding ? ...i know, because of the fuking binding-time! i hate classic bindings. What about the burton SLX ? is it worth spending 500$ on boots ? i'm the practical guy, so right now the most interesting thing for me about boots is BOA-system !!! what about DC status (using BOA) ??? for me flex EIGHT is minimum for softboot-carving: board + binding + boots why is that F2 Intec Thunder (and similar) inventions are gone (and disappeard) ? who the hell made that bad decision ? ok, i will think about the arbor a-frame again, but eliminator looks more attractive from material point (... durability). thank you pawlo* and TLN pawlo, do you have a dog ? i know that eliminator is made in austria arbor ? i hope not in china (then i would understand durability - fuking mass production boards - just troubles). Last edited by agoston.berko; 02-09-2011 at 01:43 PM.*

02-09-2011, 02:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
KIRKRIDER Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,212	No man...just trying to spell my name..Paolo __________________ 2012/13 -12- Kirkwood days Arbor A-Frame 158 2009-10 Jeremy Jones Hovercraft 156, 2011/12 Burton Driver-X K2-Cinch-CTX Subaru WRX 06

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02-09-2011, 12:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
TLN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Kazachstan Posts: 255	First really interesting thread IMO =)) 1st: Board. Eliminator is ok. Pricey but carves well. I think it aint too agressive. NS Raptor is a good choice too. Imho this depend on where do you live. If In Europe get Elim(they're made in Eurore, afaik), if in US get Raptor. There's one more board you should look at: Elan Vertigo. Stiff and soild. And it cheaper than F2, but as goos as elim(it's all about brands). Other boards are a good choice, but i'd choose from this 3 boards. 2nd. Boots. Driver X is a definately good choice, but you should look at: Salomon Malamute: Flex 9/10, SBX riders choice(so as Driver X). I heard some say: if salomon fits well, you'd fell in love with em, and wont change for any other. If not, Just get another one. I got malamutes and really happy with em, they fit like a glove. Nitro Team. Stiff and responsive. I know that Driver X and Malamutes are the best for SBX, this is what you should look at. I'm not saying Drivers are bad, but just give Malamutes a try, if you're able to wear it for a while. 3re Binders. Flow Frx are used for a softboot carving very often, They got a very good "side support" because of big strap. Haven't tried 'em yet, and AFAIK, there's no FRX in XL in Kazachstan this year(dealer told so). Anyway i got CADs. Can't comment on SP, but i believe that'd be a nice choice too. PS. Get and elevators or palmer plates. That does reaally make a difference. I'm interested in a softboot carving, PM if you got any questions/ideas.

02-09-2011, 01:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
baddmaddy Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 36	Also take a look at the Donek Incline. Doneks are very popular with the hardboot crown over on Snowboard Carving, Racing, Alpine Snowboarding - Boards, Boots, Bindings, Reviews: Bomber Online in Summit County, Colorado: Welcome! Salomon Malamutes would also be my #1 choice for a stiff freeride boot.

02-09-2011, 01:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
agoston.berko Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 17	thank you baddmaddy TLN do you mean this one?: Palmer Plates Rock - Review of Palmer Power Link System Standard Lifters from Backcountry.com is it compatible with every board (not the burton rail) ?

02-09-2011, 04:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
skip11 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 378	Maybe checkout the Burton Custom X?

02-09-2011, 05:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
AAA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 380	My wife has a Donek Incline. She's still learning, but she likes it alot. We have her set up with very forward angles to get her carving well. Crappy Flow bindings for now, but she'll upgrade when she starts to take off and needs more support. The Incline is pretty much an all mountain freeride board intended to carve pretty well. Donek also makes a couple of softboot-specific carving boards called the Razor and Saber, which seem to be very well received. If you intend to freecarve 90% of the time, then one of those would probably be a great board for you. Everything, I believe, can be custom tweaked from Donek, too...stiffness, sidecut, lengths, widths, topsheet, etc. You can look them up at Donek custom snowboards online snowboard shop snowboard company order buy.