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Danny Kass vs Park Pickle vs Proto vs DH2 vs Banana Magic
Having a hell of a time picking my next board, any help is appreciated.
East Coast (Loon, Stratton, etc)
Ride 100% park
63.2% big kickers 360 and 540's being my favorite trick and hopefully 720's next year or I will die trying.
36.8% metal rails
This is my short list in no order:
Will also be looking at the 2012 models of these when they get more reviews.
2011 Ride DH 2.5 153 Flex 7 Waist 25.1
2011 GNU Park Pickle 153 Flex 6 Waist 25.2 BTX Asymetric
2011 GNU Danny Kass 153 Flex 6 Waist 25.2 C2BTX
2011 LibTech Banana Magic 152 Flex 6 Waist 25.1 C2BTX with Magne
2012 LibTech Attack Banana 153 Flex 6 Waist 25.1 EC2
2012 NS Proto CT 152 Flex 5 Waist 24.4
So my questions:
If anyone has ridden at least two of these boards on the list, could you tell me your thoughts, especially which one had more pop?
Anyone know what the differences will be on the 2012 boards, vs the 2011 boards on this list?
How is the Proto flex 5 rating, vs the gnu/lib flex 6 rating?
Any other board suggestions?
i've been on the dh2 and the park pickle.
The dh2 is much stiffer, its a great board for big jumps and cliffs. Its got good pop but you have to work for it since it has lots of carbon in the tail. I don't know if it is the slimewalls or the sidecut but it is very slow to initiate turns on hard pack.
The park pickle has a great flex, stiff enough to charge steeper lines but soft enough to play around in the park and dick around on flatter stuff. I didn't like the tight radius on the heel side edge, just too tight for me but that is preference and i like long sidecuts. I ended up trading the pickle for a skate banana which is pretty much the same but a tad softer and with out the asym sidecut.
I'd say i prefer the pickle/banana over the dh2 because its just a little more versatile over the mountain. I like banana rocker better then the flat between the feet, it seems to make the board turn quicker and ollie quicker. The radial side cut with magnetraction carves really nice, not grabby just very predictable.
I demoed all of those except the Kass and Attack Ban.
The Dh2.5 and Ban Magic should be grouped together because both are suited for big mountain freestyle riding. The Dh2.5 is not a 7 flex for sure. It is at least an 8.5 in my opinion. Beast of a board. It is also the most poppy board out of the bunch. The pop in the dh2.5 can catch you off guard. Stability isn't an issue with this board. Not my cup of tea.
The Ban Magic is one killer ride. It's definitely softer than the Dh2.5. I'd give it a 6 in flex. Very responsive edge to edge and it likes to lay down a fatty carve. Pop is abundant, but not moon high like the Dh2.5. Also, very light board. You'll especially notice the lightweight on the lift.
The Park Pickle is a decent park stick. I'm not sold on the Asym heelside though. However, I already put forward lean on my bindings so that might be why. This one is a hair softer than the Magic with okay pop.
Ah, the Proto. You read my review so you know how I feel about this one :)
Proto out of those. Though if you want something less expensive look at a Rook or a Destroyer DoubleDog.
For jumps stay away from center reverse without camber in the tips. To easy to get rocker washout. Arbor is the one exception, the parabolic combined with Griptech works great. Better than BTX by far.
Thanks guys for the great info!
Yeah the proto is definitely on the top of my list. The specs and reviews seem like it's the perfect board for me, the only thing I don't like is the graphics, BUT I have yet to see it in person and who the hell buys a board because of the graphics anyways. I do like the bottom graphics though.
Tied for a very close second is the 2011 GNU Danny Kass 153 and 2011 LibTech Banana Magic 152. Mainly because these are on deep discount right now at my local shop.
The park pickle looks out of place above. If you want pop as you stated you should be looking at ALT Camber and not just regular BTX.
DK is an underrated board but it is also a bit stiffer than SB or Pickle. It is great for jumps and landing since well, it is a park/pipe board =)
Yeah the Park Pickle doesn't really hold a candle to the other boards listed. I have ridden all of the boards that you have listed and the only 2011 board that changes for 2012 is the DH2 (you listed 2.5). For 2012 all DH2's (regular, wide, 2.6 and 2.7) are hybrid rocker. If you are starting to go bigger and spin bigger, you will want a board that can power through a big landing and not wash out.
For what you listed you do, I would rank the boards like this:
1. DH2, tons of pop and can still be pressed out on rails
2. Proto CT, great pop and can still press it out
3. Banana Magic, if you want to spend the coin or are concerned about weight, if not ride the Kass
4. Kass, just because you ridding will be just as good on it than it would be on the Magic and it doesn't have the price tag.
5. Attack Banana, rides well, good pop, but I still like the Kass slightly better.
45. Park Pickle, I could easily find 40 other boards better suited for you than the Pickle...
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