Heritage, Premier, Billy Goat, or Optimistic.... - Snowboarding Forum

Hawkfan79 · 08-12-2011, 01:51 PM

Well after 6 years of riding I’ve decided to get a new board. I currently ride a ’05 Burton Canyon 163, it is the board I learned on and the only board I know.

What I like about it:
1. Fast and stable (at least to me)
2. Carves well
3. Pretty good in powder

What I dislike:
1. Very wide, making it slow edge to edge.
2. Harder to ride in the trees and moguls.

My terrain: Groomers, sidecountry, trees, moguls, powder (basically everything but the park).

My stats: 31 yrs. old, 6’, 195lbs, size 10 boots.

What I want in a board: Something that is fast and stable like my Canyon but more nimble and responsive that I can have confidence with in the trees and moguls. I ride in the PNW so I also need a board that can plow through our heavy, wet snow.

After doing some research and talking to my local shop I’ve narrowed it to the following:
-NS Heritage
-NS Premier F1
-GNU Billy Goat
-Yes Optimistic

I’m leaning towards the Heritage based on its greater flexibility as an all-mountain board and good reviews it’s gotten here and across the web but I thought I would see what you guys think. Any advice is appreciated and please feel free to recommend any other boards you think may fit the bill. Also, I currently have '07 Burton Custom bindings, would it be a good idea to step up to some stiffer/more responsive bindings? If so, suggestions? Thanks.

SHREDDER97 · 08-12-2011, 02:13 PM

I would go for the ns heritage as you mentioned and look at the arbor a-frame.

Nivek · 08-12-2011, 07:46 PM

Of those four I would go for the Heritage. Those Cartels should be good. I wanna say the '07 was the last year I liked Cartels... If you want something else look at Flow NXT-ATSE's, Flux SF45's, Raiden Phantoms, or Ride Capo's.

If you want more suggestions look at the Signal Omni, Arbor Coda or Element RX, Flow Drifter, or a Nitro Team Gullwing.

garavac · 08-13-2011, 03:08 AM

i would go for premier, or woud check arbors line...

Lstarrasl · 08-13-2011, 06:26 PM

my question for you...Why would anyone ride moguls?

LuckyRVA · 08-14-2011, 08:38 AM

Having just picked up a '10 Premier myself, my vote is for the Premier

Hawkfan79 · 08-15-2011, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nivek

Of those four I would go for the Heritage. Those Cartels should be good. I wanna say the '07 was the last year I liked Cartels... If you want something else look at Flow NXT-ATSE's, Flux SF45's, Raiden Phantoms, or Ride Capo's.

If you want more suggestions look at the Signal Omni, Arbor Coda or Element RX, Flow Drifter, or a Nitro Team Gullwing.

Why the Heritage? I'm leaning that way too but curious why you would go with it. I've got the Customs not the Cartels, according to Burton the Customs are a couple notches down on the flexability/response scale from the Cartels but I'm not sure how much difference that is really going to make.

Another question came to me: coming from a 163 camber board should I size up, down, or stay the same when going to a hybrid camber board? I feel comfortable with the length of my Canyon and based on my size I think the 160-165 range is where I should be. Thanks for the help.

Lstarrasl · 08-15-2011, 11:04 AM

You are a Seahawks fan, in the Pacific North West and you aren't going to rep your state with a Lib or Gnu? Come on dude.

Hawkfan79 · 08-15-2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lstarrasl

You are a Seahawks fan, in the Pacific North West and you aren't going to rep your state with a Lib or Gnu? Come on dude.

I know, I know, I really want to rep Lib or Gnu, I live less than an hour from the factory in Sequim, but above all else I want the board that is right for me and if that is a NS, Signal, or a Yes then so be it.

Milo303 · 08-15-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkfan79

I know, I know, I really want to rep Lib or Gnu, I live less than an hour from the factory in Sequim, but above all else I want the board that is right for me and if that is a NS, Signal, or a Yes than so be it.

Smart kat

Heritage all the way

08-12-2011, 01:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hawkfan79 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: PNW Posts: 66	Heritage, Premier, Billy Goat, or Optimistic.... Well after 6 years of riding I’ve decided to get a new board. I currently ride a ’05 Burton Canyon 163, it is the board I learned on and the only board I know. What I like about it: 1. Fast and stable (at least to me) 2. Carves well 3. Pretty good in powder What I dislike: 1. Very wide, making it slow edge to edge. 2. Harder to ride in the trees and moguls. My terrain: Groomers, sidecountry, trees, moguls, powder (basically everything but the park). My stats: 31 yrs. old, 6’, 195lbs, size 10 boots. What I want in a board: Something that is fast and stable like my Canyon but more nimble and responsive that I can have confidence with in the trees and moguls. I ride in the PNW so I also need a board that can plow through our heavy, wet snow. After doing some research and talking to my local shop I’ve narrowed it to the following: -NS Heritage -NS Premier F1 -GNU Billy Goat -Yes Optimistic I’m leaning towards the Heritage based on its greater flexibility as an all-mountain board and good reviews it’s gotten here and across the web but I thought I would see what you guys think. Any advice is appreciated and please feel free to recommend any other boards you think may fit the bill. Also, I currently have '07 Burton Custom bindings, would it be a good idea to step up to some stiffer/more responsive bindings? If so, suggestions? Thanks. Last edited by Hawkfan79; 08-12-2011 at 06:21 PM. Reason: forgot a couple things...

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08-12-2011, 02:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
SHREDDER97 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 230	I would go for the ns heritage as you mentioned and look at the arbor a-frame.

08-13-2011, 03:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
garavac Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 52	i would go for premier, or woud check arbors line...

08-13-2011, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lstarrasl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 617	my question for you...Why would anyone ride moguls?

08-14-2011, 08:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
LuckyRVA Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 1,101	Having just picked up a '10 Premier myself, my vote is for the Premier

08-15-2011, 11:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lstarrasl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 617	You are a Seahawks fan, in the Pacific North West and you aren't going to rep your state with a Lib or Gnu? Come on dude.