Does it really exist? - Snowboarding Forum

losib3257 · 10-01-2011, 11:32 PM

I read a lot about people looking for an all-mountain killer. I know that companies claim they have an all-mountain board, but can a softer board really be good for charging and floating in the pow and be soft enough to kill it in the park as well? I have to say that it is impossible when thinking about the dynamics of a snowboard, but I could be naive.

Steez · 10-02-2011, 12:34 AM

It won't be a noodle but with rocker, a good all mountain board can do well in the park. Of course an all mountain board will be great for all mountain and a park board for park but there are some good for both such as the Neversummer Proto, Rome agent rocker, and the Arbor Black list. Of course there's other but those have a nice all mountain feel while still being good in the park.

idshred · 10-02-2011, 01:07 AM

the ability of a snowboard to be a quiver killer is relative to the ability of the person riding it. Have you heard the saying 90% rider, 10% board?

youtube "mu and his fish" if you want to see what i'm talking about. What he does on that fish boggles my mind.

BurtonAvenger · 10-02-2011, 02:33 AM

Rider>Gear.

Jenzo · 10-02-2011, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger

Rider>Gear.

agree... though snowboards are trying to be more technologically advanced, they can never really be all that much different from each other like, say, in the mountain bike world.
Hardbooters have some limitations but in the soft boot world there is not a whole lot of difference when it comes down to it. I think the length of the board has a bigger impact than what the manufacturer made the board to do.

jdang307 · 10-02-2011, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger

Rider>Gear.

When the rider is new or sucks, Gear > Rider. Until the rider catches up

I went much faster on the NS SL then the crappy Technine board I had (Split T I think it was). Maybe it was the forum hype, that got me gassed up. I dunno. But I was flying on that thing faster than I would have on the crappy T9. But the easier turning got me more confident.

So for beginners, the gear is much more important. Once you are good though, yes the rider will ride no matter what they are one.

dreampow · 10-02-2011, 05:12 AM

Jack of all trades and a master of none.
These days they are getting better but several boards made for different things will always provide better performance IMO. Of course the rider is by far the biggest part of the equation.

losib3257 · 10-02-2011, 11:06 AM

I was leaning in the direction of rider>gear because it just seemed to not be feasible that a board could possible do everything. Although, with the new technology it seems that it may be possible.

losib3257 · 10-02-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by idshred

the ability of a snowboard to be a quiver killer is relative to the ability of the person riding it. Have you heard the saying 90% rider, 10% board?

youtube "mu and his fish" if you want to see what i'm talking about. What he does on that fish boggles my mind.

Wow you are absolutely right. And BA, you are right as well, rider>gear.

10-01-2011, 11:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
losib3257 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 132	Does it really exist? I read a lot about people looking for an all-mountain killer. I know that companies claim they have an all-mountain board, but can a softer board really be good for charging and floating in the pow and be soft enough to kill it in the park as well? I have to say that it is impossible when thinking about the dynamics of a snowboard, but I could be naive.

10-02-2011, 02:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,054	Rider>Gear. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

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10-02-2011, 12:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Steez Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 179	It won't be a noodle but with rocker, a good all mountain board can do well in the park. Of course an all mountain board will be great for all mountain and a park board for park but there are some good for both such as the Neversummer Proto, Rome agent rocker, and the Arbor Black list. Of course there's other but those have a nice all mountain feel while still being good in the park.

10-02-2011, 01:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
idshred Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 113	the ability of a snowboard to be a quiver killer is relative to the ability of the person riding it. Have you heard the saying 90% rider, 10% board? youtube "mu and his fish" if you want to see what i'm talking about. What he does on that fish boggles my mind.

10-02-2011, 05:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
dreampow Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kyoto Japan Posts: 1,056	Jack of all trades and a master of none. These days they are getting better but several boards made for different things will always provide better performance IMO. Of course the rider is by far the biggest part of the equation.

10-02-2011, 11:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
losib3257 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 132	I was leaning in the direction of rider>gear because it just seemed to not be feasible that a board could possible do everything. Although, with the new technology it seems that it may be possible.