Frostbite, Magnetraction...what does Never Summer have? - Snowboarding Forum

andy_d · 12-08-2011, 08:56 AM

I'm not seeing anything being mentioned on the website for some of the boards. Wondering if the Premier F1 is a good board for the east coast

**HoboMaster** · 12-08-2011, 09:05 AM

Taken from their website:
Rocker & Camber

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Never Summer’s patented rocker designed lineup featuring R.C. (Rocker & Camber) Technology and Vario Power Grip sidecut geometry combines a rocker freestyle feel with all mountain high speed performance. Unlike older generation rocker and flat
camber designs that may perform well in powder and parks but lack stability and edgehold when riding fast, our combined rocker and camber (R.C. Technology) design destroys anything in its path from parks to steeps, to powder and high speed cruisers. This technology blends a NS custom rocker profile with separate camber areas at each end of the board, providing unmatched power and snap out of turns. This also provides better board tracking for high speed stability and massive ollies. The Vario Power Grip sidecut works perfectly with this new design by adding increased edgehold precisely where it’s needed most; from 2 inches outside of each binding, inward towards the
center of the board providing added control and response in any condition.

Lots of hyped up terms in this biz, but I think the term you're looking for is the Vario Power Grip. It holds well on ice but is apparently not quite as pronounced as Magnetraction.

LuckyRVA · 12-08-2011, 09:07 AM

It's called vario power grip. I am riding a Premier this season. Have only ridden it once so far...but the conditions were not really icy so I can't really tell how well it will do on ice.

CheeseForSteeze · 12-08-2011, 09:08 AM

Variogrip sidecut which is pretty effective.

IMO, Premier F1 (and the Raptor) would be a bit much for East Coast riding as in addition to exceptional freeriding/carving, they're really designed to blast through deep snow and heavy crap we don't see much of.

Riley212 · 12-08-2011, 09:11 AM

vario grip they call it, Never Summer RC and Vario Power Grip Technology | evo

Effectiveness rating (just my opinion):
1-mervin magnetraction
2-arbor griptech
3-Variogrip/frostbite
4-Quadratic/parabolic sidecuts
(just my opinion)

none of these techs are as good as the companies claim, but they are better than a regular sidecut.

**HoboMaster** · 12-08-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze

Variogrip sidecut which is pretty effective.

IMO, Premier F1 (and the Raptor) would be a bit much for East Coast riding as in addition to exceptional freeriding/carving, they're really designed to blast through deep snow and heavy crap we don't see much of.

This, I think you'd be better off grabbing either the Heritage or SL if you want a more freeride-centric board.

ecks · 12-08-2011, 10:57 AM

I've said this before and I'll say it again, I rode the Proto last year through some pure ice conditions and disregarding a slip or two because I tried to force the board to fail to see its limit, the board held its edge every time completely blowing me away. I hear magnatraction is supposed to be the 8th wonder of the snowboarding world but I can't see how it can be significantly better than a board than can hold an edge on a ice.

**HoboMaster** · 12-08-2011, 11:42 AM

I've never had it fail me either, but there have still been times It's sketchy. When it's that bad I tend to ride cautiously anyways.

andy_d · 12-10-2011, 12:25 PM

Thanks guys. I currently have a Burton Process V-Rocker and I don't really enjoy riding it. Some of the boards recommended seem more towards reverse camber than camber? I'm more interested in free riding than free style. You guys would still recommend to stay away from the Premier

Beschatten · 12-10-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_d

Thanks guys. I currently have a Burton Process V-Rocker and I don't really enjoy riding it. Some of the boards recommended seem more towards reverse camber than camber? I'm more interested in free riding than free style. You guys would still recommend to stay away from the Premier

I'd look into hybrids or full cambers.

Capita makes a lot of cambered boards with rockered tips. NS makes the opposite of that. I'm not a huge fan of full rocker either.

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HoboMaster Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sandpoint / Moscow, ID Posts: 2,301	I've never had it fail me either, but there have still been times It's sketchy. When it's that bad I tend to ride cautiously anyways. __________________ PowderHound and TreeNinja

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12-08-2011, 09:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
LuckyRVA Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 1,099	It's called vario power grip. I am riding a Premier this season. Have only ridden it once so far...but the conditions were not really icy so I can't really tell how well it will do on ice.

12-08-2011, 09:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
CheeseForSteeze -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,716	Variogrip sidecut which is pretty effective. IMO, Premier F1 (and the Raptor) would be a bit much for East Coast riding as in addition to exceptional freeriding/carving, they're really designed to blast through deep snow and heavy crap we don't see much of.

12-08-2011, 09:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Riley212 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North Seattle Posts: 476	vario grip they call it, Never Summer RC and Vario Power Grip Technology \| evo Effectiveness rating (just my opinion): 1-mervin magnetraction 2-arbor griptech 3-Variogrip/frostbite 4-Quadratic/parabolic sidecuts (just my opinion) none of these techs are as good as the companies claim, but they are better than a regular sidecut.

12-08-2011, 10:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
ecks -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 413	I've said this before and I'll say it again, I rode the Proto last year through some pure ice conditions and disregarding a slip or two because I tried to force the board to fail to see its limit, the board held its edge every time completely blowing me away. I hear magnatraction is supposed to be the 8th wonder of the snowboarding world but I can't see how it can be significantly better than a board than can hold an edge on a ice.

12-10-2011, 12:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
andy_d Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 131	Thanks guys. I currently have a Burton Process V-Rocker and I don't really enjoy riding it. Some of the boards recommended seem more towards reverse camber than camber? I'm more interested in free riding than free style. You guys would still recommend to stay away from the Premier