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Ballistic · 12-23-2011, 01:43 PM

i just rode my new 2012 gnu riders choice. awesome board. After 1 ride i see the base dry looking already. So i ironed in some Swix BP88 Base Prep Wax. Im told it softer than the usual white multi temp i use and therefore will sink in a little better. So heres the question- when should i throw a layer of white wax on it? right now, or go ahead and ride a couple times then do it?

is it pointless in putting a couple coats on back to back with no rides, or does it somehow pound more wax into the board?

ThunderChunky · 12-23-2011, 01:52 PM

You are scraping the wax off right?

Irahi · 12-23-2011, 01:52 PM

The pores on a sintered base (especially a very dense one, like the rider's choice) are extremely small and require quite a lot of time with heat applied (which opens the pores) to have wax penetrate completely. So yes, extra waxing immediately won't be a complete waste until you've hit total saturation, which takes many heat/cool cycles to achieve.

Alpine races have been using devices called hot boxes for years that essentially act as very low temperature ovens for skis to force complete absorption over a 4-8 hour period. They'll throw a very thick layer of wax on with a traditional iron, and then just let it sit in the box at ~200 F to keep the wax liquid and the pores open.

ShredLife · 12-23-2011, 02:02 PM

^^^^^^ yup - this. i was going to build a hotbox this year but we ended up not having winter

racers also stack waxes - do an entire wax and scrape, repeat, repeat, repeat - sometimes 5-7 times before a race. so yea. go for it.

Ballistic · 12-24-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

^^^^^^ yup - this. i was going to build a hotbox this year but we ended up not having winter

racers also stack waxes - do an entire wax and scrape, repeat, repeat, repeat - sometimes 5-7 times before a race. so yea. go for it.

thx guys... i'll stack one extra layer on for good measure. I've always heard conflicting stories.. some say burton and libtech come with LOTS of factory wax and some say no its CRAPPY wax job. Seems #2 is more accurate.
But wutever.. .the board itself is so awesome.

WasatchMan · 12-24-2011, 01:11 AM

you can never 'over-wax.'

when in doubt, wax it.

Ballistic · 12-24-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

Gnu`s also seem to have really fast bases but they don't hold wax as long as other boards. I am finding this on my Billy Goat. Where I could wax the Heritage and ride for 3 days on ice and crud before drying the base out, the Billy Goat is done after a day of riding. I layer wax by putting down a cold temp wax first, then putting on a multi temp wax. Lately due to the abrasive ice, I have been doing an arctic wax that I get in Fairbanks that is for _30F and colder. I put this on my edges where the most wear takes place. Makes a big difference.

ya i've done cold wax along edges before.. its makes perfect sense in icy conditions or any conditions actually.

12-23-2011, 01:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ballistic Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: vancouver Posts: 170	wax guru- question for you... i just rode my new 2012 gnu riders choice. awesome board. After 1 ride i see the base dry looking already. So i ironed in some Swix BP88 Base Prep Wax. Im told it softer than the usual white multi temp i use and therefore will sink in a little better. So heres the question- when should i throw a layer of white wax on it? right now, or go ahead and ride a couple times then do it? is it pointless in putting a couple coats on back to back with no rides, or does it somehow pound more wax into the board? __________________ Vancouver, BC

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ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,387	^^^^^^ yup - this. i was going to build a hotbox this year but we ended up not having winter racers also stack waxes - do an entire wax and scrape, repeat, repeat, repeat - sometimes 5-7 times before a race. so yea. go for it. __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

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12-23-2011, 01:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Irahi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 179	The pores on a sintered base (especially a very dense one, like the rider's choice) are extremely small and require quite a lot of time with heat applied (which opens the pores) to have wax penetrate completely. So yes, extra waxing immediately won't be a complete waste until you've hit total saturation, which takes many heat/cool cycles to achieve. Alpine races have been using devices called hot boxes for years that essentially act as very low temperature ovens for skis to force complete absorption over a 4-8 hour period. They'll throw a very thick layer of wax on with a traditional iron, and then just let it sit in the box at ~200 F to keep the wax liquid and the pores open.

12-24-2011, 01:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
WasatchMan Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,023	you can never 'over-wax.' when in doubt, wax it.