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Oh that's still the year of the rooster (Feb 4, 1969 till Feb 4, 1970). Maybe there are some similarities between us haha. Anyway let's go back on topic.

I wonder if any swallow tail, for example the Burton Fish will perform equally well as you guys' diy swallow tail in powder.
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I did this on a Volkl zenit and it really floats well.

http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boa...-my-volkl.html

I have to say it did loose some stiffness though, probably because it had carbon stringers tip to tail in the exact spot where you cut out for the swallowtail.

It works fine in powder, but has lost some groomer performance without a doubt. You only notice it when on hard not so smooth surfaces.

Probably depends on the structure of board and where the stiffness comes from. For many boards this will not be an issue.

Also a proper powder board will have a smoothly rockered nose and taper, these features will make it better than a DIY swallowtail IMO. Still its a great fun way to breathe life into an old stick and get a pretty good powder deck.
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I did this on a Volkl zenit and it really floats well.

http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boa...-my-volkl.html

I have to say it did loose some stiffness though, probably because it had carbon stringers tip to tail in the exact spot where you cut out for the swallowtail.

It works fine in powder, but has lost some groomer performance without a doubt. You only notice it when on hard not so smooth surfaces.

Probably depends on the structure of board and where the stiffness comes from. For many boards this will not be an issue.

Also a proper powder board will have a smoothly rockered nose and taper, these features will make it better than a DIY swallowtail IMO. Still its a great fun way to breathe life into an old stick and get a pretty good powder deck.
Nice pictures of diy swallow tail in your thread. You've got great craftsmanship I must say. The edges look very smooth. You guys must have a helluva lots of older boards to experiment and sacrifice. Apparently all you guys' diy swallow tails also reportedly perform very well too. Good work. But for people like me with almost absolutely no diy wood work experience, buying a swallow tail seems to be the only feasible option.
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Blast from the past LOL

When I got back from Japan I decided I was going to build my own boards from scratch, well Im about a week out from pressing my first one. Its been a long road but Im almost there!

Where it all started, drawing it out on CAD (thanks Dad!)


The CNC cut template


Channel routed in the core for pouring 360 degree urethane sidewalls


urethane sidewalls poured into the channel


Sintered base laying over the profiled core


You can see the camber profile here. Rocker between the feet and camber outside with a big rocker nose


#1 core with veneer top sheet


some more veneers I made for top sheets


Testing the press with 60psi in it



The next pics will either be a finished board or a massive fail LOL
Great thread!! How did this board turn out?

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turned out sick.
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Here's where i am at with mine...

Sanded and repainted
Scealed the cutout
Now need more clearcoat
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Nice work, this thread is turning our to be the epic swallowtail thread.
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Awesome!! Very cool.

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Good work guys. Keep the pics of chop jobs coming!
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Here's where i am at with mine...sorry for the crappy pic...plus the stupid i pad always flip my images in forums....

Sanded and repainted
Scealed the cutout
Now need a good clearcoat
Flat is the new gloss brother!
If you clear it knock it back with green scotchbrite for a satin finish, it looks nice and is easy to maintain compared to gloss
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