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Old 01-17-2013, 11:16 PM   #81 (permalink)
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This my friends board, he did this today, with less than 2 week till Japan

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Old 01-18-2013, 12:17 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Nice job!
I Leave on sunday night, cant fkn wait!
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:25 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Just got back from 7 snowboarding days in Japan , my swallow tail and my mates worked a treat, it made the powder days a lot easier. It took six 9 hours days before my rear leg started getting sore, normally I get sore on the 1st or 2nd day.

Glad I did this mod and I will do this mod again if I upgrade my board.


Good to board with you ETM and thanks for lending out your powder boards.

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Old 02-11-2013, 04:52 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Just got back from 7 snowboarding days in Japan , my swallow tail and my mates worked a treat, it made the powder days a lot easier. It took six 9 hours days before my rear leg started getting sore, normally I get sore on the 1st or 2nd day.

Glad I did this mod and I will do this mod again if I upgrade my board.


Good to board with you ETM and thanks for lending out your powder boards.
I have not gone through the full 9 pages of this interesting thread. But this last post might tell me something I never knew before. I have never experienced deep powder in my short snowboarding pursuit.

Does a swallow tail effectively eliminate the need to exert rear foot pressure in order to maintain good float in deep powder?

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Does a swallow tail effectively eliminate the need to exert rear foot pressure in order to maintain good float in deep powder?
It doesn't eliminate it , it just reduces the pressure needed a lot. If its not deep powder ( 20-30cm ) you need no rear pressure, if its 40cm+ you need a little rear pressure.

The powder boards ETM made require zero rear pressure, you can have all you weight on the front leg in powder and it still pops the nose up.


ETM on his board, I was there on this great day 1 of 3 big days in 1 week!!
rusutsu snowboarding 5/2/2013 - YouTube

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Thanks for the youtube link. Great video. Was that you in the vid?
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:51 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Hi all,
i started working on my old rossignol 166 board to make it swallowtail. this thread got me started.


here's where i'm at so far.
working on sanding, finishing the inside edge at the moment, a re-paint is in the plans. Ił,m not on a rush, i want it to be nicely done, if I only test it next season so be it.

few questions for those who already tested their board.:
1- do you guy' feel the tails are a lot softer/flexier than before?
2- would they benefit from some reinforcement? either added laminate or a stiffener bar between the tips?

thanks
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1- do you guy' feel the tails are a lot softer/flexier than before?
2- would they benefit from some reinforcement? either added laminate or a stiffener bar between the tips?

thanks
Mine and my mates didn't feel any softer, we both followed each other to watch the rear end to see if it was flexing more and we both couldn't see any difference. I also have go-pro footage of just the board working and you can't see any extra flex.
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Damn, y'all are inspiring me. Once I beat the shit out of my Charlie Slasher, it might get the swallow tail treatment.
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Mine and my mates didn't feel any softer, we both followed each other to watch the rear end to see if it was flexing more and we both couldn't see any difference. I also have go-pro footage of just the board working and you can't see any extra flex.
Sounds good. I would like to see your videos.

But honnestly, by "hand feel", i pushed before and after the cut and i feel it is considerably softer...of course its hand feel, not very scientific but not completely unrreliable.

I've seen a company called coda snow board add a cable between the tips to help "spread the load" wich sound logic from the description on the website.

Coda Variable Flex

That said i have two ideas, one inspired from coda boards...add a stiffener bar made of fiberglass . The bar would be easily removable and would help the board behaving more "normally"

The second idea would be to laminate a pieces of thin plywoodon the end of the board. That would required a lot more work, glue, fiberglass etc.

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