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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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perhaps try the cold shock curing method?

immediately after waxing put your board out in the cold or base side down in the snow. this makes for a molecularly tighter bond between base and wax.

worth a shot i suppose...
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perhaps try the cold shock curing method?

immediately after waxing put your board out in the cold or base side down in the snow. this makes for a molecularly tighter bond between base and wax.

worth a shot i suppose...
Very interesting, I've never heard of this technique before.
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Cr0's idea will work and linvillegeorge explained what is happening. With as much manmade as I've been riding this year, I find my edges dry at the end of the day and I wax every single day on my Westmark. It's really not a problem, the middle the base still has enough speed to carry across flat spots and get speed for hitting stuff which is the only reason I'm such a wax so much.

So you can either use a harder wax on the edges/areas that dry fast or you could carry a couple of boards, all freshly waxed. Otherwise, it's not going to hurt anything.
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Very interesting, I've never heard of this technique before.
yea i remembered reading about it in a tuning manual put out by a wax company....i think it was either toko or kuu.
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Cold shock is a joke, less wax will be absorbed, and more will scrape off.

People hand build ski sized makeshift ovens to bake the wax in, not the opposite...

strange wax company tech cold shock.

Manmade snow sucks. Hot Wax often, and cork it after scraping for a nice polish.
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yea the cold shock thing sounds bogus. i've heard of putting your board outside AFTER you wax/scraped right before you are about to go ride and thats only if your base is still warm from the waxing so that it can adjust to the temp of the snow so it doesnt stick to it.


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yea the cold shock thing sounds bogus.
Yeah, the cold shock thing is mentioned on a few ski racing pages, but (like most racing tips), I suspect it's an exceedingly marginal performance or durability improvement. Worth it if you're a few hunderedth's off the podium.

For increased durability, you can use a harder wax on the edges or even move up to powders on the edges. But really, over the course of an entire season, you're probably only saving yourself a few waxing sessions. Frankly, on manmade snow for recreational boarding, there's only 2 types of wax you'll need: warm temp for slush to break the water suck and everything else. If it isn't spring slush, just use cold temp wax for durability. All temp wax is just mid range temp wax, jack of all trades, master of none. You won't notice any difference riding cold temp wax in mid temp conditions, but you will notice if you have mid-temp in very cold conditions, it will get stick.
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