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Old 01-17-2012, 01:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there!

Well basically, I've been an amateur snowboarder for quite some time now, last year I was riding Flow Era 158 and Flow Quattro-Se bindings, doing stuff on the box, doing basic stuff on the rails and also trying to spin. This year I've changed it up a little bit and now have a Bataleon Disaster stick, with Rome 390 Boss bindings. I loved just freeriding at first, buttering all around the mountain. Now I manage to do advanced grabs and spin pretty well. The problem I have encountered is that I can no longer do the basic stuff on the rail and do boardslides or nose/tail slides on the box because I'm always catching front edge... Am I just searching for a reason or am I doing something wrong?

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Old 01-17-2012, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Detune your edge slightly. Your older board was probably worn down. Bataleon boards are really sharp when you first get them.
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi there!

Well basically, I've been an amateur snowboarder for quite some time now, last year I was riding Flow Era 158 and Flow Quattro-Se bindings, doing stuff on the box, doing basic stuff on the rails and also trying to spin. This year I've changed it up a little bit and now have a Bataleon Disaster stick, with Rome 390 Boss bindings. I loved just freeriding at first, buttering all around the mountain. Now I manage to do advanced grabs and spin pretty well. The problem I have encountered is that I can no longer do the basic stuff on the rail and do boardslides or nose/tail slides on the box because I'm always catching front edge... Am I just searching for a reason or am I doing something wrong?

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Without seeing any video it is really hard to tell. Could be you just aren't used to the contact points on the new board leading you to keep catching.
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its you, but cause you're used to the Era which has a rolled base between the bindings.

Detune a little between your feet and you should be better off, but you do need to learn proper pressure on jibs. Don't lean into it but more pressure should be on your trailing edge. Like 45/55.
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Ok since, I'm from the unknown part of Europe, what does detune exactly mean?

And it also seems that I suck at explaining the problem. I'm basically frustrated about the box tricks, for instance when I'm coming in at a box, pop a bit and try to do a board slide I land and
the board just stops sliding as if something is slowing me down... Any thoughts on that?
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Ok since, I'm from the unknown part of Europe, what does detune exactly mean?

And it also seems that I suck at explaining the problem. I'm basically frustrated about the box tricks, for instance when I'm coming in at a box, pop a bit and try to do a board slide I land and
the board just stops sliding as if something is slowing me down... Any thoughts on that?
Detuning is making the edges less sharp. You can do it with a gummy stone or take it to a local shop and have them do it. It sounds like you are landing on edge and it's digging in. Detuning will help slightly, but it sounds like your main problem is that your not landing flat based.
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Ok since, I'm from the unknown part of Europe, what does detune exactly mean?

And it also seems that I suck at explaining the problem. I'm basically frustrated about the box tricks, for instance when I'm coming in at a box, pop a bit and try to do a board slide I land and
the board just stops sliding as if something is slowing me down... Any thoughts on that?
Detuning involves using a tool to basically make your edges duller - so they catch less. As to the second question, sounds like you might not be getting enough speed before hitting the feature. Speed is a pretty big factor in doing boxes/rails.
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Detuning involves using a tool to basically make your edges duller - so they catch less. As to the second question, sounds like you might not be getting enough speed before hitting the feature. Speed is a pretty big factor in doing boxes/rails.

that's what I thought about detuning. will get right on that. Well, it doesn't matter at which speed I hit it with, with the Era it would just slide on through perfectly but with the Disaster I start to "brake" somehow...
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Was this just one day or have youbeen having this happen multiple days on the Disaster? Could just be a sticky feature day.
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Was this just one day or have youbeen having this happen multiple days on the Disaster? Could just be a sticky feature day.
unfortunately it happened multiple times, but I'm beginning to think that the Era did not require any weight transfer depending on which side you are sliding and the Disaster being a much more flexible board requires more effort
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