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Early thoughts on C3?

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#1 ·
So Lib-Tech rolled out the C3 shape as option for the Jamie Lynn at SIA. Basically big camber with some rocker between then feet - kind of like C2, but the camber is more pronounced and the rocker less, so that the rocker/middle does actually not touch the ground when the board is unweighted.
Time will obviously tell how this works, but what are your expectations/thoughts? Lib-tech claims that it offers camber-like stability (more than C2) but still retains some rocker playfulness. I can kind of see that, but personally I am concerned about the float in powder with that camber dominated shape...
 
#2 ·
Basically C2BTX, EC2BTX, enhanced !BTX! and this new C3 are variations of the same designs, it just change the "pressure footprint" of the board ad it moves the contact points.
The !BTX! is the most "rockered" hybrid profile and the new C3 is on the opposide side, but the biggest question mark IMHO is on the Flex Pattern... this determinates how the board will hold edge and floats in powpow!

Burton is introducing the same ideas with "Camber Humps" and "Flying V" designs... :)
 
#7 · (Edited)
I love the C2s forgiving profile, it's saved me a few times for sure. I grew up on camber and have no problems with it at all. I love the stability and speed of camber boards, but I do like that I no longer worry as much about catching an edge at a bad time. The forgiving nature of C2 I think has made me a better rider lately because I'm more likely to push myself s little more with it (I'm getting older and don't like to crash hard these days), however there are times when I find the ride a bit lacking especially at high speed. I'm really looking forward to trying a C3 board and seeing the move towards a more cambered profile. If they can bring back a camber feel but still give me a catch free ride I would be sold for sure.

I'm not looking to go back to regular camber. This weekend I rode with a couple other guys who were on old school LibTechs with full camber.. They flew down the hill and were hard to follow at times, but I also saw them catch edges and wipe out at least 3 or 4 times... I on the other hand kept up pretty well and never had a crash from a caught edge, so I'm still convinced in the benefits of a hybrid tech...I do think there is some room for improvement though and I'm excited to see how it progresses.

The funny thing is we had a discussion over beers on the hill about camber/hybrids and my friends were all pro camber, hate rocker tech. The one guy says..."I've been riding for 26 years and I never catch edges on camber...." Then 5 minutes later tells me he crashed on the run right before lunch because he caught an edge... Then I watched him wipe out 3 more times at least because he caught edges.....could have had something to do with all the beers.....but still.
 
#8 ·
I love the C2s forgiving profile, it's saved me a few times for sure. I grew up on camber and have no problems with it at all. I love the stability and speed of camber boards, but I do like that I no longer worry as much about catching an edge at a bad time. The forgiving nature of C2 I think has made me a better rider lately because I'm more likely to push myself s little more with it (I'm getting older and don't like to crash hard these days), however there are times when I find the ride a bit lacking especially at high speed. I'm really looking forward to trying a C3 board and seeing the more towards a more cambered profile. If they can bring back a camber feel but still give me a catch free ride I would be sold for sure.

I'm not looking to go back to regular camber. This weekend I rode with a couple other guys who were on old school LibTechs with full camber.. They flew down the hill and were hard to follow at times, but I also saw them catch edges and wipe out at least 3 or 4 times... I on the other hand kept up pretty well and never had a crash from a caught edge, so I'm still convinced in the benefits of a hybrid tech...I do think there is some room for improvement though and I'm excited to see how it progresses.
85km/h. Not bad for an old man.
 
#11 ·
I would like to try it eventually, but not something I care too much about. Of the 40 or so boards I've owned in the past 5yrs, none have been traditional camber, and I don't plan on going back anytime soon. I need to try stuff like Camrock and C3 eventually, but again not in a rush. I've been more than happy with hybrid rocker/cambers like C2, RC, TBT, FK.
 
#13 ·
Mtx is one of the best things ever, IMO. Having that confidence that you'll never lose an edge is indispensable.

I've got a T. Rice C2 from last season. I really dig it and it's held up real well at high speed- as well as my old Burton T6. But I miss some of that camber feeling so looking forward to more boards with the C3 next year.
 
#14 ·
i will try to demo a c3 in Feb. been mainly riding a billygoat c2btx that has more mellow btx and mtx and truthfully have not caught an edge yet, last week did a day on old cambered twin and have not caught an edge in about a year and half...but could certianly feel edges want to engauge more readily.

as far as bombing high speed, the goat feels darn stable and more forgiving (i.e., more wiggle room) vs cambered is solid stable and less forgiving... however when haulling A, one should have no fear of catching an edge, so catching an edge doesn't factor in.

also mtx really does not factor in catching edges, its more about grippage when on edge and different amounts of mtx do have an effect.

thus imho catching an edge and going down is more about technique and paying attention...it is not about camber or mtx...though btx does factor in
 
#16 ·
My thoughts are that there are too many stupid ass names for random snowboard tech in the industry. I can't keep up with this shit.

It seems like everyone is pretty much re-inventing the wheel right now, but hyping and marketing it like it's some kind of earth shattering break through that's gonna turn us all into Travis Rice.

I mean, I work in marketing, but the snowboarding industry is a bit ridiculous.
 
#18 ·
I have the Hot Knife with C3. All I can say is I love it. Came from a Burton Custom X. I can hold an edge slightly better on the Hot Knife. Not knocking the Custom X, I just like the Hot Knife better. I think its a great board.

What little pow I have gone, haven't had any issue, but haven't really gone through enough to make a good call.
 
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