scotty100

From the looks of their 2013 catalogue they've downgraded the Yes the Basic board from a sintered to an extruded base. Disappointing...perhaps because it's now getting made by Elan?

I just bought a Yes 2012 Great Beauties of History...was offered a good deal by my local board store...300 bucks end of season deal reduced from 450...couldn't say no. The board looks awesome and is made by Nidecker. I did a lot of reading before I purchased it and seems Yes did suffer initially from poor quality control issues at the Nidecker tunisia factory but had sorted out the problems 2011 onwards with the higher end boards being made at Nidecker's switzerland base. The move to Elan would seem to be cost cutting rather than quality control-dictated.

SuperRalfons

Been riding the PYL and the Trouble this season. Both randomly delaminated and got replacement for them wich are allso delaming.

But the PYL is a beast for freeriding. its a killer in the woods steeps chutes groomers but not my choice for freestyle fun, neither is the Trouble.

I picked up a salomon grip for park sidehit powder freestyle fun and feel like its a solid quiver. the trouble is sold. =P

ju87

any other comments on the Trouble ? any idea of how it rates against a Jackpot ?

scotty100

Hey Super - I like the look of the Grip too. Most think it's a solid board but others think the knock on it is poor edge hold, crap in ice and generally iffy for carving. Would you agree? I'm still tempted to add the new 2013 version for next season.

Nolefan2011

I don't know what's going on with Yes. They nixed the Optimistic which was a great board, and now kill the Big City.

scotty100

Maybe because they are switching manufacturers from Nidecker to Elan? But I agree, they seem a little all over the place.

skip11

Maybe because they now have the Trouble which is the same as the Big City, and DCP now rides the Pick Your Line (where as he rode the Optimistic last year)

Basti

They had the trouble last year as well and it isn't really comparable to the Big City. The trouble is a true twin with med flex while the BC is a directional with med/stiff flex.

No, they just have a gap in their line-up now, which is a shame.

scotty100

Basti - a little off-topic but what bindings do you ride with the big city? I'm looking for bindings to pair with my new great beauties board and I'm thinking the board flex is not too different from the big city - on the medium side. So far, I'm leaning towards K2 auto uprise or national or burton malavita or maybe a flux. cheers.

BoardWalk

I'm using Union Force SL's and yes the ratchets suck.