Yeah I tried to get them from a few places with low prices and got order confirmations.. but when I never got a shipping confirmation I called to find out both places were out of them. Hummmmm... I found another place with them.. we'll see if it goes through. Just a bit more but the wife just got here bindings there and had a good experience. So wish me luck this time. The Targa are what I really want.. so might as well spend the little extra and be happy.