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Old 07-25-2012, 06:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Been riding a 08' NS Premier 163, and after reading through quite a few of these threads it seems maybe an upgrade is due. Getting a little toe drag on this setup. Not terrible, but noticeable on occasion.


180-190 lbs
Size 12 foot

No park (getting too old), mostly fast carving and powder.
20 years riding.


Was curious as to what smarter people than myself thought.

A) New Premier 161-163, no smaller due to boot size.
B) New Raptor X wide 161.

Rode a wide lib tech(not sure which model) maybe 10 years ago. It was terrible, edge to edge was painfully slow.

Thanks.....

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well either way your going to be happy. Id go with premier at 161,
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i think either one will work great. Id probly go with the Premier 161 as well.

And for the record, lib tech has changed a shit ton in the past 10 years. haha just saying.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Depends on whether you want a damp board or a more lively one?

Having test ridden both, i would go for the Raptor, stupidly fast and the carbonium topsheet makes it lighter and more lively than the F1. Also found the Raptor a bit better floating in powder.

Both boards are excellent at charging and big carves.
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