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Old 08-28-2012, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Fast and long freeride sticks.

Hi all.

I'm getting new board this season. And decsision is 80% made, i just wanna ask, if i missing something.
If there's "old style" long board on a market? I mean:
1. Long boards: 170cm or bigger
2. Stiff.
3. Directional. With 1-2cm of taper probably.
4. With 10m or more radius. (at least 9M rad).

I'm looking for something like:
Arbor A-frame, Ride Yukon, Lib tech 180-190 sticks.

It was lots of such a boards time ago, now everyone got rocker, 165cm max, and nor stiff.

Hey, freeriders, what you gonna ride this season?
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you pushed on a Jones Flaghip or Rossi Experience? Stiff as hell.

The Smokin KT22 comes in 172, Venture Odin comes in 173 and the Storm comes in 180 for a 26cm waist, Flow Maverick comes in a 169 as does the Solitude... so they are out there.

Really though with the progress in board design the 170+ sizes just aren't necessary. You now get better stability, edge hold, and float out of much smaller boards.
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Well, actualy yes, modern boards perform better nowadays.
But there's two points that require bigger boards:
1. Floating in powder. No matter how techie your board is, you cannot get a nice float with 161W board, once you're 200 lbs.
2. Carving abilities. The more edge you have, the better yor grip is. That's it. The more stiff your board is, stable you go.

That Venture is nice, especially in 180 cm. May be i'm missing something, but it was more fast boards before: Supermodel X 172, Unity dominion pintail, etc.

Honestly i've just ordered mine some nice board for my needs, and started that topic day ago. Just to check that i'm not missing a nice board for the money: big and fast.

I'm quite surprised that you didn't mentioned custom-build boards (well, Venture can be custom, i think): Prior, Donek, Coiler, etc..
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But there's two points that require bigger boards:
1. Floating in powder. No matter how techie your board is, you cannot get a nice float with 161W board, once you're 200 lbs.
Apparently, my 250lb butt and 163W didn't get that memo. The powder was only 3 feet deep, though. Been eyeing that KT-22.
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200 lbs, went cat skiing on a 163w highlife. Would have been fine on something smaller.
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hmmmm, my 200lbs had no trouble riding waist deep on a 159 atomic hatchet in steamboat. i think its more rider than board.
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Apparently, my 250lb butt and 163W didn't get that memo. The powder was only 3 feet deep, though. Been eyeing that KT-22.
Hmm... You either got very steep slopes, either riding straight down. Or you're Jesus and you'll be fine on a 145 boards.
Seriously, don't you mind sharing any video?

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hmmmm, my 200lbs had no trouble riding waist deep on a 159 atomic hatchet in steamboat. i think its more rider than board.
Well, it definately depends on the rider, and how any of us prefer to ride.

I can't imagine how to ride a 161W board in a trees in a fresh powder with not such a steep slope.

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The idea that you can't ride powder on a 161 at 200# is bogus.

I've ridden thigh deep snow on a CAMBERED 150 twin at 150#'s.

I spent an entire season riding Breck on a 152 with rocker and never had an issue riding deep snow.

Not to mention I gave plenty of options with rocker that come much bigger than 161.

I didn't mention custom cause they're typically much more expensive. Who wants to spend $900 on a board they use only for special occasions?
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Hmm... You either got very steep slopes, either riding straight down. Or you're Jesus and you'll be fine on a 145 boards.
Seriously, don't you mind sharing any video?
Nothing steeper than Vail Blues. I "may" have dropped into a black section but don't really pay attention. It looked super fluffy so I dropped in. You have to keep your speed up. No stopping to look where your buddies are. I just got a second board (Proto CT) and that will be my go to. I'll still bring the legacy until I get a real powder board and then I'll probably retire her or keep as spare, for friend, etc. I wish I had video. Funny thing is when the snow is right, we always forget to take pix and vids. It's usually on our last day and we remember that we haven't taken, any. NS Legacy-R. I didn't even have my bindings set back. They were actually centered. I did get the leg burn but not too bad. I wish I was Jesus-light.
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Hmm... You either got very steep slopes, either riding straight down. Or you're Jesus and you'll be fine on a 145 boards.
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Well, it definately depends on the rider, and how any of us prefer to ride.

I can't imagine how to ride a 161W board in a trees in a fresh powder with not such a steep slope.
Not that difficult, at 205 last winter my 160 heritage floated great on a day we got 2 feet plus the night before in Tahoe.
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