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Old 10-22-2012, 07:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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ah, I'm too late to add my 2 cents.
I think you might be surprised by the jones, in not such a good way. You'll prob want to keep your gyrator for the deep days. The Jones floats ok in pow but it's really stiff and you won't be having the same fun as on the gy.
The Jones excels at going fast and handling gnarly terrain.

I would have suggested the Burton Sherlock since it's a twin and floats like mad in the powder
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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ah, I'm too late to add my 2 cents.
I think you might be surprised by the jones, in not such a good way. You'll prob want to keep your gyrator for the deep days. The Jones floats ok in pow but it's really stiff and you won't be having the same fun as on the gy.
The Jones excels at going fast and handling gnarly terrain.

I would have suggested the Burton Sherlock since it's a twin and floats like mad in the powder
We'll see

The best part is that backcountry.com will let me return it if I don't like it.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm having the same dilema (which you seemed to pull the trigger on, and think you'll be stoked regardless), but I I've narrowed it down to the Ultra and Peacekeeper. The Peacekeeper is 1 inch set back and a smaller tail profile, Ultra being 3/4 inch with almost identical tail profile to the nose. The one big difference that is holding me back on snagging an Ultra, is that they didn't put an ollie-bar in it, but they DID in the Peacekeeper... which I think is counter-intuitive due to the fact the Ultra is more freestyle-pow oriented- hence more creating your own air, popping, eccetera. You'd think they're more "freestyle oriented pow deck" would include the ollie bar. I've just heard such amazing reviews from friends about the ollie bar in the Fastplant, it's hard for me to steer towards the board without it. BUT, what do I know. haven't tried either.

Other than that, I think they'll both be great boards. As a person who rides pow mostly via lift access and gates, with some shorter hikes to side country, which would YOU (whoever) recommend? Lets be honest hear, when it comes to riding switch, I'm not doing it a ton in pow... with the hopes of a buttery pow 180 here and there, or maybe a cliff drop 1. But that's not all that important to me as I could always take out my all-mtn board when im feelin more 'freestyley." I've been recomended the Ultra, but do I really need a true twin? Will it ride that much better on piste as well..?
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I'll tell you by November hopefully. Deeper!

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Take a look at the 157 Burton Barracuda, I'm looking for a 161, I currently ride a full camber Malolo 161 and can say without a doubt, it is the best freeride/powder board I've ever ridden, since the Barracuda is cambered from the front binding back and rocker from the front binding forward, I think it will ride even better then the Malolo ?
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I'm having the same dilema (which you seemed to pull the trigger on, and think you'll be stoked regardless), but I I've narrowed it down to the Ultra and Peacekeeper. The Peacekeeper is 1 inch set back and a smaller tail profile, Ultra being 3/4 inch with almost identical tail profile to the nose. The one big difference that is holding me back on snagging an Ultra, is that they didn't put an ollie-bar in it, but they DID in the Peacekeeper... which I think is counter-intuitive due to the fact the Ultra is more freestyle-pow oriented- hence more creating your own air, popping, eccetera. You'd think they're more "freestyle oriented pow deck" would include the ollie bar. I've just heard such amazing reviews from friends about the ollie bar in the Fastplant, it's hard for me to steer towards the board without it. BUT, what do I know. haven't tried either.

Other than that, I think they'll both be great boards. As a person who rides pow mostly via lift access and gates, with some shorter hikes to side country, which would YOU (whoever) recommend? Lets be honest hear, when it comes to riding switch, I'm not doing it a ton in pow... with the hopes of a buttery pow 180 here and there, or maybe a cliff drop 1. But that's not all that important to me as I could always take out my all-mtn board when im feelin more 'freestyley." I've been recomended the Ultra, but do I really need a true twin? Will it ride that much better on piste as well..?

Sounds like you should get the peace keeper, it will be fine switch, and great for 180 pow butters since the nose shape is the same.

As for the carbon flagship with now bindings, doesn't make sense to me to combind the most responsive board, with a binding that is made to delay response. Money no object get some union mc's
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Sounds like you should get the peace keeper, it will be fine switch, and great for 180 pow butters since the nose shape is the same.

As for the carbon flagship with now bindings, doesn't make sense to me to combind the most responsive board, with a binding that is made to delay response. Money no object get some union mc's
I really don't think the now bindings are designed to delay response from the reviews I've heard.

However, the Burton Diodes or Union Chargers are the replacement options.
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agreed. They are actually designed to give you more effective/powerful response and leverage over your board. I'm going to rock the IPO's on my machete gt and whatever pow board I end up with this season... I've talked to many people who have ridden (pre-production) them and wanted to hate on them but then fell in love and are also rocking them this season.
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NOWs increase your board response. JF spent quite a long time on them and they work. They were BA's favorite binding he rode last year.

Just a note, the Peacekeeper is basically the replacement for the Gyrator where the Ultra is a back country intended tweak of a Turbo.
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NOWs increase your board response. JF spent quite a long time on them and they work. They were BA's favorite binding he rode last year.

Just a note, the Peacekeeper is basically the replacement for the Gyrator where the Ultra is a back country intended tweak of a Turbo.
Good reference point. Still don't know which to pull the trigger on... What should I do, Nivek? 58 twinish set back pow/freestyle more versatile slayer with all mtn-capabilities, or 59 directional pow raper slightly less versatile pow-specific board with minimal but still decent all-mtn aspects
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