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I am thinking of buying the Burton Fish 160cm ( for Rider Weight 160-210+lbs)or Burton No Fish board 159cm(for Rider Weight 150 - 190 lbs) .

I will be mainly riding open bowls. A longer board gives more speed and stability?

i'm 5'9" and 155lbs(with ski wear and other stuff it would be around 160lbs).

consider this one too....The lower one. Jeremy Jones Hovercraft 156 (effective like a 171) can't wait to test it.


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so I should get sth else instead of the airbag??
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30cm of snow it's still almountain =)) heh
Rome notch will be fine, but i'd try to find something different for that sum.

I've never tried the swallowtail, but i will this or next year, and buy one.
But as i understand the physics, the stablilty comes from longer effective edge. The longer the edge, the faster you can go, that works everywhere.
You need stiffer tail and softer nose. Softer nose will bend and float up onto the snow, and the stiffer tail will tend to sank down. Also this slash helps to keep tail longer but with smaller square, this makes edges longer, but tail sinks and let the nose go up.

All of this results in higher speeds, more stability and flotation. If you can keep your weight on a front foot you can turn something like Undertaker 185 or 198 in pow quite quickly.


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You gotta take a look at Never Summer Raptor, NS Summt (for pow), Prior Pow-stick, Prior BX(tons of edge hold, really), Apo swallowtail etc...

Thanks for the detailed explanation

Yeah 30cm isnt totally backcountry. But I will be snowboarding in such terrain 90% of the time. I want a powder board instead of an all mt one for more surfy feel
So the surfy feel would be swallow tail> Fish> pin tail, according to their surface areas? (provided that they have the same nose size)

Would a board with too wide waist length (shoe size 8.5US and 26.2cm board waist)be a disadvantage? Like usually we use the base rather than the edges when riding powder.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation

Yeah 30cm isnt totally backcountry. But I will be snowboarding in such terrain 90% of the time. I want a powder board instead of an all mt one for more surfy feel
So the surfy feel would be swallow tail> Fish> pin tail, according to their surface areas? (provided that they have the same nose size)

Would a board with too wide waist length (shoe size 8.5US and 26.2cm board waist)be a disadvantage? Like usually we use the base rather than the edges when riding powder.
No. Swallowtail's and pintail are made that way - so they sink in snow, because of a smaller surface. This makes your nose go up.
I bet most surfy feel you get with furberg, lib tech banana hammock, Fawcett boards, That's reverse sidecut. I haven't tried, but this looks like most surfy feel.

Then Fish tail, as i think it's tail won't sink as swallow or pintail.
Swallowtails are made for faster speed, so as pintails. Swallowtails are the best for powder, no doubt. But you better ride bigger open areas on this.

Board width is no problem i think. But with 8.5 i'd personaly go for narrower board. Longer means more edge with the same surface
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and at 5ft9,155lbs. my ideal length would be?
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and at 5ft9,155lbs. my ideal length would be?
you can easily ride any of the standard pow boards available. I would be looking at the cheetah if i were you.
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Both these priors come in a 178 and have camber with an awesome rocker nose profile, they will absolutely destroy it in japan for you. I would love to own them both and cut swallowtails in them lol.

Spearhead Snowboard Model For big mountain powder From Prior Snowboards | Powder Snowboard | Big Mountain Snowboard | Whistler BC| Freeride Snowboard
Fissile Snowboard Model From Prior Snowboards | Powder Snowboard | Whistler BC Canada
Well this may be a bit of a long shot, but... I've used my magical Craigslist powers to conjure you up a Brand New Prior Spearhead Snowboard. It is a 178cm. Does $375 work for you?

Here's the long-shot, you have to convince whoever is selling it, to sell & ship it to you. It's @ its home in Whistler.

Still though, you might end up savin' some $$$$.
I'd hurry too, shit like this doesn't last long.

Good luck.

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Damn thats a good buy
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so I should get sth else instead of the airbag??
a snowboard with good edgehold so you don't fall
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Uh Hell yeah, I'll contact them right now to ask what shipping might be, also my wife is from Louisiana do might just buy and ship it there! Thanks a lot mate much appreciated!

my names's Petey and i have gigantic balls
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