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Need some help with buying my new setup

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#1 · (Edited)
Need some help with buying my new setup / Setting up my bindings

First of all i wanna say HI to all snowlovers here and explain that i'm new on forum so if im makin this thread in wrong place please dont kill me, couldnt find any better spot to post it, or maybe im just blind. Also my english is not perfect but i hope it's not gonna be a problem.

soo.. im planning to buy new stuff for this year, im mostly doing freeride , but i like to do something in the park as well, im not so often on slopes but anyway i think i need some all mountain setup, right? so here we go.. im 193 cm/85 kg and thats the stuff i want to buy

board - BURTON Bullet Wide 2013 164 cm
bindings - BURTON Cartel R 2013 Binding darkar noir
boots - BURTON Moto Boots black/white
goggles - OAKLEY Splice Goggle jet black / persimmon

so thats mostly burton setup + oakley goggles, because im burton nerd and i know oakley is makin solid goggles

i know that this stuff is good for intermediate like me (correct me if im wrong), but the questions are :

- does that equipment fits with eachother ?
- bindings and boots, good for freeride?
- is it worth that price or maybe you can suggest something better for same price?
- any1 tried those boots? are they ok?
- how about goggles lens colour? i have no freakin idea how to chose it, i need some for freeride/park mostly
- actually you can tell me anything about that equipment if you have tried it, would be nice to hear some opinions (i did read a lot about all these thing in internet, but its always ok to read some more)

and 1 more bonus question, what you think is better to cover face from freezing, mask or neckwarmer? i used only some shitty stuff so i have no idea whats better, i want to buy one of those :

BURTON 1 Layer Low Facemask true black

or

BURTON 1 Layer Exp Neckwarmer Scarf true black

any opinions?

if you think that its to much money for not advanced rider and i should get smth cheaper - not. i just want to buy stuff for many many years, i want to spend that ammount of money for good equipment to not change it for long time

humm.. thats a big post, i hope i wrote all the info you need to help me, ill be very thankfull for any opinions/ideas!

thanks in advance !
 
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#46 ·
Those imperials are nice boots! I've had vibram soles on a few boots now and they are extra grippy when walking on ice/hardpack...

That said I agree with the other poster you've got to be able to try the boots on if at all possible. I went through three pairs of boots recently until I found the exact right fit for me. Turns out I've always been wearing boots a size too big.

I like Burton speedlaces, had them on my Serow's and have them on my current and former Driver X boots and I find them easy to use and adjust.
 
#47 · (Edited)
yeah thats just not possible, i hope ill just get that right boots.. they dont have my sizes near my place. anywhere

im wearing 30.5 cm boots so i will just get 31 cm snowboots and even if they will be a bit too big, its always better than too small. just have no choice, must order them

they dont have my size of imperials :/ damn, what do you think about rulers then?

so seems like building my setup is done (for today at least)

volkl dice + cartels 2013 + ambush/ruler

i like those imperials as well, and they are 7 in flex rating so it would fit perfect with bindings, too bad they dont have my size..
but i think any of those 3 will be good, just if they fit..
 
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#51 ·
poutanen dude i need your help once more.. :) hope you can hear me
Don't know how much my help is actually worth! lol I have never been on a Carbon Credit, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

However the GNU looks like it's designed to be a freestyle board. Softer flex, rocker/Banana profile, and true twin design to me makes it seem like it'd be more at home in the park or doing side hits. I still think the Volkl would be a better Freeride machine.

Again I have no experience with either of these boards! :D If it were my money I'd buy the Volkl instead...
 
#52 · (Edited)
your help is worth big flask of good whiskey when we meet someday.. :D

about riding style.. actually i want to spend half of the time in the forest, and half trying out the park, not big things anyway.. but some smaller kickers and boxes

well im just gonna follow your tips since a like that dice a lot, just wanted to ask. im still waiting for cash so im searching and searching..

so even though i can spend up to 500 euros for board you would still recommend dice ?

btw i changed my mind about bindings a bit and im gonna take rome targas/unions atlas.. but i think its gonna be targas, what do you think?
 
#53 ·
Sounds good! Sorry I can't help between the Romes and Unions. Looks like Rome's toe cap is a little better but hard to say just from pictures.

Yeah I don't usually worry about money when picking a board. My current board (Burton T7) was regularly $950 (700 Euro or so?) but I paid $500 for it, my new board (Virus Avalanche FLP AFT) I got on SALE for $1100, I think it was just under 800 Euro. Another board I was comparing it heavily to was the Volkl Coal XT and it was going to be half the price.

I chose the Virus instead because of some features it has, but I was going to go from a $950 Burton to a $700 Volkl and still be hoping for it to be an improvement.
 
#54 ·
ok. 10 % of this deal between me and volkl should go to your account haha

another small thing that im confused about is that im 85-90 kg, depends on how much kg christmass will bring.. isnt 162 board a bit to long if ill go try the park? still im 193 cm but opinions about buying board according to weight/height are mixed. i think that 162 would be perfect between riding powder and park, just asking to be sure
 
#55 ·
Lol tell them I sent you! Actually I e-mailed them about my group buy and got no response. They could have had some sales from the forum I think if they had responded to me! Well it still looks like they make a good product. :D

Not that it's the be all and end all, but this snowboard calculator, using 190 lb, 6'3", size 13 boots, male, freestyle & freeride, intermediate ability spits out a suggested size of 164 cm. If you were going freeride only it'd suggest even longer. I'm on a 159 and I weigh about 75 Kg and stand about 165 cm tall. My new board is a 160 with a very long effective edge. I think you'll have no problem on a 162. ;)
 
#56 ·
cool cool, cant wait to finally order it.

only thing that scares me is boots, boots that i had before are some very old burton foundation, they are 14 so i will just order 14 again, hope its gonna work like this.. i will get rulers, but maybe you heard anything about raptors?
 
#57 ·
Sorry man haven't used them either. No idea why nobody else is piping up to help with their experience it seems like it's just me talking here!?! :dunno: lol

Make sure wherever you buy the boots from has a good return policy. You do NOT want to ride with the wrong sized boots. I'd measure your foot really carefully and order something that size (in cm). A boot that's a little tight in the beginning will pack out. A loose boot will only get more loose. :(
 
#58 ·
yeah they dont love me.. maybe its cause of my wannabe pimp nickname lol

about size i know i will do it right, but every boot is diffferent and that might be a problem, but im hoping to be a lucky guy like i was with those previous crap boots hehe. different brands has different sizing, but i will order burton again so lets have a hope..

was thinking about those salomons as well

Salomon Savage 12/13 available online at the Blue Tomato Shop

but i think rulers will be better anyway

hope that some good guy like pou will check this thread to tell me something about raptors <praying to god>
really like them, but dunno if they are good for freeride
 
#61 ·
well it's gonna be kinda hard for me since im not experienced enough i think, didn't have many boards before to compare them with dice now.
maybe if i read other reviews i will be able to write something, otherwise i could only speak about the quality of board etc.

will think about it, for now i just hope that boots will fit good ! :unsure:
 
#62 ·
well it's gonna be kinda hard for me since im not experienced enough i think, didn't have many boards before to compare them with dice now.
maybe if i read other reviews i will be able to write something, otherwise i could only speak about the quality of board etc.
A lot of people think this, but your thoughts are every bit as valid as somebody who's been boarding for 20 years... Get on it for 5-10 days and then write your thoughts, even if it's not tehnical you know what you're looking for in a board, write what you were looking for, and whether or not this meets your needs!
 
#63 ·
hi ! parcel came today, everything is perfect, including boots :yahoo:
but now i need some serious help since i have no idea if i'm doing things right.. it's the first time i'm setting bindings up

here are some photos, hope they are good enough :







my boots size is 14
hell hoop and hell piece is moved back to maximum. i read that back of the baseplate shouldn't be out of the board, but it can be a bit on the front

anyway it's not symetric at all, should i move my bindings one/two screws down? i think it's the main problem for now, but maybe you will find something else wrong as well
 
#64 ·
hi ! parcel came today, everything is perfect, including boots :yahoo:
but now i need some serious help since i have no idea if i'm doing things right.. it's the first time i'm setting bindings up

here are some photos, hope they are good enough :


my boots size is 14
hell hoop and hell piece is moved back to maximum. i read that back of the baseplate shouldn't be out of the board, but it can be a bit on the front

anyway it's not symetric at all, should i move my bindings one/two screws down? i think it's the main problem for now, but maybe you will find something else wrong as well
Impossible to tell from the pictures - just loosely putting the boots in the bindings is pointless. What matters is that the boots are centered across the board (bindings don't really matter) when you are wearing them, i.e., when you are strapped in.
Either wear the boots for the pictures and strap in or at least tighten both the boots and straps.
 
#65 ·
both boots and straps are tighten on the first picture actually
anyway i will move bindings one screw down, wear the boots and try to make some better photos later

in short, boots should be symetrical to the board, but can pedals go over the front/back edge? on the last photo gas pedal is going a bit over the edge, is it right or should i move it back a bit? is there any rule for this?
 
#66 ·
Is the ankle strap already at it's max adjustment? It seems like you're only engaging about 5 teeth which probably won't be enough on the hill. I'd try to get that strap centred on both sides of the boot if possible.

Yeah you don't really want to toe or heel of the baseplate/gas pedal hanging over the edge.

Wiredsport has a good writeup somewhere of binding adjustment. Basically you want to strap in a laced up boot, then get the board on each edge and check the angle it'll reach before the toe or heel hits. Make adjustments until those angles are as close to equal as possible.
 
#67 ·
ok i made some adjustments.. moved bindings one screw back, adjusted ankle straps as pou said, adjusted forward lean and made some highbacks rotation (not sure if i need it)
boots are almost perfect centered, it's going over the edge like 2.5 - 3 cm on both toe and heel and gas pedals are not going over the egde anymore

all photos are made while wearing boots, hope they are good now :









what you guys think?
 
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