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Old 11-05-2012, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Need some help with buying my new setup / Setting up my bindings

First of all i wanna say HI to all snowlovers here and explain that i'm new on forum so if im makin this thread in wrong place please dont kill me, couldnt find any better spot to post it, or maybe im just blind. Also my english is not perfect but i hope it's not gonna be a problem.

soo.. im planning to buy new stuff for this year, im mostly doing freeride , but i like to do something in the park as well, im not so often on slopes but anyway i think i need some all mountain setup, right? so here we go.. im 193 cm/85 kg and thats the stuff i want to buy

board - BURTON Bullet Wide 2013 164 cm
bindings - BURTON Cartel R 2013 Binding darkar noir
boots - BURTON Moto Boots black/white
goggles - OAKLEY Splice Goggle jet black / persimmon

so thats mostly burton setup + oakley goggles, because im burton nerd and i know oakley is makin solid goggles

i know that this stuff is good for intermediate like me (correct me if im wrong), but the questions are :

- does that equipment fits with eachother ?
- bindings and boots, good for freeride?
- is it worth that price or maybe you can suggest something better for same price?
- any1 tried those boots? are they ok?
- how about goggles lens colour? i have no freakin idea how to chose it, i need some for freeride/park mostly
- actually you can tell me anything about that equipment if you have tried it, would be nice to hear some opinions (i did read a lot about all these thing in internet, but its always ok to read some more)

and 1 more bonus question, what you think is better to cover face from freezing, mask or neckwarmer? i used only some shitty stuff so i have no idea whats better, i want to buy one of those :

BURTON 1 Layer Low Facemask true black

or

BURTON 1 Layer Exp Neckwarmer Scarf true black

any opinions?

if you think that its to much money for not advanced rider and i should get smth cheaper - not. i just want to buy stuff for many many years, i want to spend that ammount of money for good equipment to not change it for long time

humm.. thats a big post, i hope i wrote all the info you need to help me, ill be very thankfull for any opinions/ideas!

thanks in advance !

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure on the board/bindings/boots, but regarding the goggles:

It really depends on where you ride most of the time and what the light conditions are. Up here in the Pacific Northwest, we get a lot of overcast/cloudy days leading to flat light. In those conditions, you want an amber or pink/rose or yellow tinted lens with high light transmission (the Oakley Persimmon is good for that). If you board somewhere where you get a lot of sunny, bluebird type days, you'll want something that blocks more light (look into the mirrored lenses). I used to rock Oakley A-frames with Persimmon lenses and they were great, but on really sunny days I went with sunglasses for better glare reduction and healthier for the eyes.

I am also a guy that sweats easily, so fogging was always an issue with cheaper goggles. I went to the Oakleys ($100 vs. $40) and had a big improvement, although after a few years they started fogging more. I am getting new goggles myself and going with Smith I/OX...really sweet, interchangable lenses (big for me up here with our variable conditions) and super-fog free. But also very expensive.
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ive never been a fan of goggles, the frames on my face annoy me and they kind of restrict vision (you can see the frames usually). if you don't fall much id suggest sunglasses. oakleys work great, the lenses are interchangeable, so you can match them to conditions easily and replace them if they break. the earpieces also snap out, usually before they break. if they do break they are replaceable as well though.
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well i love to jump some in forest, make some gaps etc, i dont like goggles either, but i just need them

anyway thanks for help and waiting for some more
goggles are not that important for me tbh, some posts about rest of equipment would be nice !
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I think that's a good setup for an intermediate rider.

Note that the board is full rocker so it will turn easily but might not have the best edge hold in icy or hardpack conditions.

Also do you have big feet - that is what the bullet is designed for.
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yeah i do, i have about 31 cm so i need nr 49, could take 48 but better to take a bit bigger than to small

im not so deep in snowboard brands, thats why i decided to buy mostly burton stuff cause i know its always trustfull, but as i read '2012/2013 setup pics' thread, there is not so many people using burton boards/boots, why ? is there so many better brands or its about graphic or ? i thought that burton and libtech are leading in snowboard business, but seems like i have just typical nerdy knowledge about this

if you guys have any ideas about taking some other brand board for 300-400 euro, that could be better - go ahead

thats a lot of money for me which i will spend for equipment so i really need your help lads!
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If budget is an issue consider either 2012 stuff or used stuff for bindings and board. Get new boots and try them on before you buy, fit is very important.
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the problem is that i cant try them cause i dont have any shops near my town where they have my sizes, so i have to order

what do you think about burton motos btw? and should i check for some other brand board with same price or that full burton setup seems to be good enough ?
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Moto's are pretty soft. I would get a stiffer boot to pair with Cartels. Maybe take a look at Rulers.
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soo.. im planning to buy new stuff for this year, im mostly doing freeride , but i like to do something in the park as well, im not so often on slopes but anyway i think i need some all mountain setup, right? so here we go.. im 193 cm/85 kg and thats the stuff i want to buy

i know that this stuff is good for intermediate like me (correct me if im wrong), but the questions are :

- does that equipment fits with eachother ?
- bindings and boots, good for freeride?
- is it worth that price or maybe you can suggest something better for same price?
- any1 tried those boots? are they ok?
- how about goggles lens colour? i have no freakin idea how to chose it, i need some for freeride/park mostly
- actually you can tell me anything about that equipment if you have tried it, would be nice to hear some opinions (i did read a lot about all these thing in internet, but its always ok to read some more)

and 1 more bonus question, what you think is better to cover face from freezing, mask or neckwarmer? i used only some shitty stuff so i have no idea whats better, i want to buy one of those

thanks in advance !
Wow that's a lot of questions for one thread! Welcome to the club anyway...

Okay, so first off, Freeride and Park are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Freeride is basically riding all over the mountain, a lot of powder, off-piste, carving, with the occasional backcountry jump. It heavily favours stiffer setups. Park needs a medium to soft setup. So before we get too into the suggestions. Lets determine your riding style. I do about 90% freeride, 5% playing around doing side jumps/hits, and 5% park. So for me a freeride setup is perfect.

The other thing is, your height isn't that important in figuring out board size, foot size is important. And unless you have US/CAN Size 12+ feet, you likely don't need a wide board. Unless you NEED a wide board, you don't WANT a wide board. Trust me.

As for the face cover, I use one of the half masks that covers my nose, lips and chin, and it velcro's behind my neck. Keeps me plenty warm on ice cold days.

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ive never been a fan of goggles, the frames on my face annoy me and they kind of restrict vision (you can see the frames usually). if you don't fall much id suggest sunglasses. oakleys work great, the lenses are interchangeable, so you can match them to conditions easily and replace them if they break. the earpieces also snap out, usually before they break. if they do break they are replaceable as well though.
As a guy who goes more than 20 km/h on the snow, and who HAS fallen on his face several times over the years, I strongly suggest goggles over sunglasses. With even the best fitting sunglasses you're going to tear up once you get any speed at all, and I'd be worried about protecting my eyes going headfirst into snow with a pair of sunglasses on.

I landed head first one night after I over rotated in the air, and my goggles were probably the first to hit. The lens cracked in half but stayed together protecting my face from most of the impact.
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