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goranl82 · 11-15-2012, 03:12 PM

I appreciate your help. I quess I will rather go with the 160 cm one then, which is supposedly made for 220+ lbs riders. Or should I go even longer and look at other board models? However, I think 160 cm will be long enough, since my old 162 cm board honestly does feel clumsy to spin around for me. I don't want to buy myself a very long, carving only oriented board...

wernersl · 11-15-2012, 03:13 PM

ill chime in with what i have experienced. as others have said, length is just part of the equation. the particular board, boot size, and riding style should also be considered. im 5'11" booking in around 265. when buying my board i had to consider primarily a board that would be best for charging groomers and steeps. i like to jump but nothing huge, mostly natural hits when i find em. i dont often find myself jibbing through the park with the little 150lb kids. i know thats not my place. my sights were set on the Never Summer Heritage. I probably still would have gone with the Heritage if I could have found one locally in the size/width i wanted, however after a great discussion with a guy at Val Surf in North Hollywood he mentioned the Raptor. Turns out, the RaptorX 165 (wide) was a great fit for me. at the time i was rockin size 13 DCs, but those were terrible boots for me and ran really small (12 too tight and 13 a little too big). i am trying the new 686/New Balance 580 focus boas this year. size 11 fit perfect. hope it doesnt affect me on the wide board.

really what im saying here is that there are tons of factors to consider...and you might get it right, might not. demo days are the best to find the perfect ride for you.

as for recommendations based on your riding style/progression you might want to have a look at the Never Summer SL (or Legacy if you need a wider board). good all mountain board for you to start on. consider the 159 or 161 for your weight. if you dont need the wide consider the SL 158 or 161. you could always upgrade as your skill set improves or determine exactly what type of riding will dominate your time on the mountain.

I recommend Never Summer for you because of what you have mentioned. on one hand you wanted traditional camber for carving yet a rocker for the park and powder. with NS rocker/camber design you pretty much get the best of both worlds. im a heavy bastard and i couldnt sink the raptor in powder, even loading up on the front of the board. ive also never had issues with the board skidding out on me in hard turns. i have to work at that if i want to spray a buddy or unsuspecting noob with his ass parked in the middle of the run with a load of snow. at the same time ive never mistakinly caught an edge with that board. really is the perfect combination for my riding.

good luck in your pursuit.

wernersl · 11-15-2012, 03:15 PM

good choice on the rome bindings by the way.

goranl82 · 11-15-2012, 03:41 PM

Thank for the tips. NS boards seem awesome, but unfortunately where I live (Slovenia) they are quite exclusive (and expensive), and I'm on a tight budget. As for the demo days - there aren't any, except for the local brands. Pretty local scene really...

wernersl · 11-15-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by goranl82

Thank for the tips. NS boards seem awesome, but unfortunately where I live (Slovenia) they are quite exclusive (and expensive), and I'm on a tight budget. As for the demo days - there aren't any, except for the local brands. Pretty local scene really...

could always checkout ebay and see if anyone will ship internationally. sorry man. didnt realize you were way out there! If you can get Mervin boards out there, consider something in GNU/Lib Techs lineup with C2 BTX. similar profiles to the NS with the added benefit of magnetraction. Just dont seem like they are quite as bulletproof. good luck man.

goranl82 · 11-15-2012, 04:01 PM

Gnu/ Lib Tech are more affordable, I'll check them out -thanks for the tip. I never really considered to buy a mixed camber board, as I thought they were not suitable for learning to carve due to lesser edge hold. I'll check them out more in detail, though.

wernersl · 11-15-2012, 04:05 PM

i learned on a 1997 Burton Custom. talk about an edgy board. caught so many wild edges on that thing. as i progressed i definitely out-grew it. really chattery with almost no edgehold. my raptor will hold an edge like no tomorrow and haveny caught a nasty edge spill yet. i think youd be fine on one of their all mountain offerings. very forgiving.

lonerider · 11-15-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zany

I said without problem, it wasn't ideal but didn't notice any big problem anywhere. In short: I just wanted to say that 2-3cm don't make big difference in performance.

Would have been better if you said that in the first place (and that you were actually 180 lbs). Your original reply of "I was riding 151 Evo at 190lbs..without problem all over the mountain. Its not about lenght:P" can easily be misunderstood by someone who doesn't know much about snowboards.

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Originally Posted by Zany

I often see that people are struggling if they pick board 3cm longer they cant go to park or hit a rail because is too big for that...3% more or less lenght won't make a big difference.

It goes both ways... if going down 3cm in length doesn't make a huge difference in freeriding... it also means it doesn't make a difference in the park if you board is just 3 cm longer. I think that idea that you can't do a 50-50 on a rail because the board is 3 cm longer is nonsense. You can't do a jump or a rail in the park because you are bad at it - not because the board is 2% longer and heavier. Like you said... a long, stiff board is not ideal for park, but it's also not a 'big problem". Check out this guy doing jumps and halfpipe on a 222 cm board (I know some have already seen it). I don't have a video of it, but I've done nosepresses, noserolls, and boardslides on Rad Air Tanker 172 cm board (again, not ideal or recommended...)

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Originally Posted by Zany

I started to workout back then..so my weight is going up and down often.

Man... you were hitting the weights to gain/fluctuate between 160 lbs to 190 lbs. Didn't have any chemical assistance?

jk. I'm just jealous because I have a light frame and can't build much muscle mass.

wernersl · 11-15-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lonerider

jk. I'm just jealous because I have a light frame and can't build much muscle mass.

trade ya...

goranl82 · 11-15-2012, 04:13 PM

That sounds very promising... How about on hardpack/ice? Realistically speaking, these are the predominant conditions where I ride...

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11-15-2012, 03:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
goranl82 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	I appreciate your help. I quess I will rather go with the 160 cm one then, which is supposedly made for 220+ lbs riders. Or should I go even longer and look at other board models? However, I think 160 cm will be long enough, since my old 162 cm board honestly does feel clumsy to spin around for me. I don't want to buy myself a very long, carving only oriented board...

11-15-2012, 03:13 PM	#22 (permalink)
wernersl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 289	ill chime in with what i have experienced. as others have said, length is just part of the equation. the particular board, boot size, and riding style should also be considered. im 5'11" booking in around 265. when buying my board i had to consider primarily a board that would be best for charging groomers and steeps. i like to jump but nothing huge, mostly natural hits when i find em. i dont often find myself jibbing through the park with the little 150lb kids. i know thats not my place. my sights were set on the Never Summer Heritage. I probably still would have gone with the Heritage if I could have found one locally in the size/width i wanted, however after a great discussion with a guy at Val Surf in North Hollywood he mentioned the Raptor. Turns out, the RaptorX 165 (wide) was a great fit for me. at the time i was rockin size 13 DCs, but those were terrible boots for me and ran really small (12 too tight and 13 a little too big). i am trying the new 686/New Balance 580 focus boas this year. size 11 fit perfect. hope it doesnt affect me on the wide board. really what im saying here is that there are tons of factors to consider...and you might get it right, might not. demo days are the best to find the perfect ride for you. as for recommendations based on your riding style/progression you might want to have a look at the Never Summer SL (or Legacy if you need a wider board). good all mountain board for you to start on. consider the 159 or 161 for your weight. if you dont need the wide consider the SL 158 or 161. you could always upgrade as your skill set improves or determine exactly what type of riding will dominate your time on the mountain. I recommend Never Summer for you because of what you have mentioned. on one hand you wanted traditional camber for carving yet a rocker for the park and powder. with NS rocker/camber design you pretty much get the best of both worlds. im a heavy bastard and i couldnt sink the raptor in powder, even loading up on the front of the board. ive also never had issues with the board skidding out on me in hard turns. i have to work at that if i want to spray a buddy or unsuspecting noob with his ass parked in the middle of the run with a load of snow. at the same time ive never mistakinly caught an edge with that board. really is the perfect combination for my riding. good luck in your pursuit.

11-15-2012, 03:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
wernersl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 289	good choice on the rome bindings by the way.

11-15-2012, 03:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
goranl82 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	Thank for the tips. NS boards seem awesome, but unfortunately where I live (Slovenia) they are quite exclusive (and expensive), and I'm on a tight budget. As for the demo days - there aren't any, except for the local brands. Pretty local scene really...

11-15-2012, 04:01 PM	#26 (permalink)
goranl82 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	Gnu/ Lib Tech are more affordable, I'll check them out -thanks for the tip. I never really considered to buy a mixed camber board, as I thought they were not suitable for learning to carve due to lesser edge hold. I'll check them out more in detail, though.

11-15-2012, 04:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
wernersl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 289	i learned on a 1997 Burton Custom. talk about an edgy board. caught so many wild edges on that thing. as i progressed i definitely out-grew it. really chattery with almost no edgehold. my raptor will hold an edge like no tomorrow and haveny caught a nasty edge spill yet. i think youd be fine on one of their all mountain offerings. very forgiving.

11-15-2012, 04:13 PM	#30 (permalink)
goranl82 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	That sounds very promising... How about on hardpack/ice? Realistically speaking, these are the predominant conditions where I ride...