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Old 11-15-2012, 07:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Anyone who's not butt hurt like the guy a few posts above knows 151 is too short for 75 kg's and isn't recommended unless it's strictly for jibbing. Which is exactly what I stated in my first post.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:29 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Whoa whoa whoa... I actually agree in general that someone 75kg/165 lbs should be looking for something in the 156 range unless they specifically want to do all park. If they are beginner, then while I prefer that they get something like a 156... they are going so slow it really isn't going to make a difference starting out... if they already have a board, they might as well ride it.
Absolutely. I never implied getting a short board was the end of it. Sure, he/she will absolutely be able to ride the board either way. My point was that, unless you're only gonna jibb, a too short board isn't recommend.

And two or three people decided to misunderstand and be complete dicks about it, instead of reading between the lines and comprehending.

At least OP got what I/we were saying, that's all that matters in the end.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:36 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Tropical did you ever think you'd get 4 pages out of such a simple question

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Old 11-15-2012, 08:57 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Ah, to be honest, no.

Well, multiple people with different opinions, I guess. It's educational for me to read up as I can get a feel on how people see these questions from different aspects. It gives me something to consider and broaden my views on these topics.

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Old 11-15-2012, 09:11 PM   #35 (permalink)
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better too small and flexible than too long and aggressive for starting out.

you probably won't understand what you're feeling for a few years anyhow.
^^^this

specially if you are learning. Im 6'1 and my first board was an 164. I wish i started with something shorter, but as that post says you wouldnt understand if you are in the process of learning. Once you want something specific start doing your research for the riding style you like or planning to do.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:27 PM   #36 (permalink)
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^^^this

specially if you are learning. Im 6'1 and my first board was an 164. I wish i started with something shorter, but as that post says you wouldnt understand if you are in the process of learning. Once you want something specific start doing your research for the riding style you like or planning to do.
I don't know... I mean this is all a matter of opinion - but I don't think it's terrible if you accidentally go a little long either. I find a lot of people use bad/sloppy technique to turn the board (not using proper leverage)... but they can get away with it because the board is so short and soft... then they ride their first mogul field, tree run, or steep slope - and their crappy technique immediately shows as they have a ton of trouble doing anything but falling leaf.

The way I see it, it's like learning to drive on a car with stick instead of automatic... or learning to throw a football using a real football instead of one of those nerf footballs with the fins in the back. It's harder and kind of sucks when you are learning... but if you can get through that.... you are better than someone who learned the easy way.
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I don't know... I mean this is all a matter of opinion - but I don't think it's terrible if you accidentally go a little long either. I find a lot of people use bad/sloppy technique to turn the board (not using proper leverage)... but they can get away with it because the board is so short and soft... then they ride their first mogul field, tree run, or steep slope - and their crappy technique immediately shows as they have a ton of trouble doing anything but falling leaf.

The way I see it, it's like learning to drive on a car with stick instead of automatic... or learning to throw a football using a real football instead of one of those nerf footballs with the fins in the back. It's harder and kind of sucks when you are learning... but if you can get through that.... you are better than someone who learned the easy way.
true, there are many teaching/learning philosphies that can be applied. another example that i can add is about the board profile. reverse camber is "supposed" to be the easier way to learn, but when i taught my uncle he said the camber board was easier to control. so i guess that would be personal preference.

in this case i think the easier option fits better his situation.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:26 PM   #38 (permalink)
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true, there are many teaching/learning philosphies that can be applied. another example that i can add is about the board profile. reverse camber is "supposed" to be the easier way to learn, but when i taught my uncle he said the camber board was easier to control. so i guess that would be personal preference.

in this case i think the easier option fits better his situation.
I agree... it can't be so difficult that the person quits. I'm just saying if you do make it through the trial by fire... you will be tempered steel!

The thing with camber is you know exactly where you balance is. You are either on you uphill edge, flatboard... or on the ground (because you caught your downhill edge). Well, before that you will see snow popping over your board (indicator that you downhill edge is beginning to drag into the snow... you will feel it too).

With reverse camber you can be in no-man's land where you aren't quite flat boarding, but you aren't really on edge either (and you might be leaning towards your downhill edge but you don't know yet -- until you slam). In that case you board can rotate like a rudderless raft in a river (spinning randomly).
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Whoa whoa whoa... I actually agree in general that someone 75kg/165 lbs should be looking for something in the 156 range unless they specifically want to do all park. If they are beginner, then while I prefer that they get something like a 156... they are going so slow it really isn't going to make a difference starting out... if they already have a board, they might as well ride it.

Seriously, snowklinger, snowolf, etc... ... do I sound like this guy when I post?
lol no, and when we were discussing earlier, I'm just usually trying to offer a 2nd opinion or play devils advocate. wtf do I care right.

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Ah, to be honest, no.

Well, multiple people with different opinions, I guess. It's educational for me to read up as I can get a feel on how people see these questions from different aspects. It gives me something to consider and broaden my views on these topics.

I am thankful for all the help.
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