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someguy 01-02-2013 04:49 PM

Is the binding too large for my new board? Am I risking heel- and toe-drag?
 
Hello,

what would you say, is the binding too large for this board? My previous board had a larger waist width than this one and now I don't feel so good about it because the heel and the toes are hanging over the front- and backside and I don't want to risk heel- and toe-drag.

Rotation is -15 and I only mounted one binding yet, the other one will be +15. It is positioned to the side as much to the frontside as possible, already.

Binding is a Cartel L and the Boots are Salomon Maori in 42 / US 9. The board is a non-wide GNU RIder's Coice.


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schmitty34 01-02-2013 05:00 PM

Always hard to tell from pics, but size 9 boots should be just fine on a non-wide RC.

There isn't much else your binding position can do to reduce the overhang unless you started using some pretty extreme angles. As long as your boot is centered on the board it should be fine.

someguy 01-03-2013 04:38 AM

Thanks for the input. I thought maybe the Binding is too large and so I have to change to an M version of the Cartel. I bought it some years ago and my previous board had more waist width so that wasn't a problem before. But now it is a problem, maybe.

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Extremo 01-03-2013 04:45 AM

Looks good. You always want some overhang. Otherwise you'd have a hard time getting the board on edge. I'd say that's about normal. Unless you're in the deep stuff you shouldn't run into a problem.

bseracka 01-03-2013 11:52 AM

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Somethings not right. For starters you should be in a medium binding with a sz 9 boot and in the 3rd pic (iirc) there's about an inch, inch and a half gap between the back of your boot and the heel cup. I'd start by making the binding as small as possible and going from there.

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schmitty34 01-03-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bseracka (Post 560564)
Somethings not right. For starters you should be in a medium binding with a sz 9 boot and in the 3rd pic (iirc) there's about an inch, inch and a half gap between the back of your boot and the heel cup. I'd start by making the binding as small as possible and going from there.

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ahhh....good eye. I wasn't really looking at the binding too much, just the boots. Size 9 boots should have no problem with his board, but the L bindings might be too large for his boots.

someguy 01-03-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bseracka (Post 560564)
Somethings not right. For starters you should be in a medium binding with a sz 9 boot and in the 3rd pic (iirc) there's about an inch, inch and a half gap between the back of your boot and the heel cup. I'd start by making the binding as small as possible and going from there.

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This is because the angle of the Cartel highback is not the same as the angle of the calves-part of the boot. You can of course vary the angle of the highback, but it is set as much upright as possible, already. If I'd vary it, the highback would be more "horizontally" and the space between the heel and the heel cup of the binding would be even larger.

Up to now I thought that this wouldn't be a problem because at the upper part the boot presses against the highback and so I can put force to the backside. So you think that this is a major problem?

Maybe the problem persists with a Cartel in size M because the angle of the highback stays almost the same, doesn't it? I had a Cartel in M before, but I gave it back because I felt like the straps were a bit too short for the boots. Maybe I have to change to some other binding. Could you recommend one? Should be good for all-mountain riding (70% onpiste/groomers, 20% offpiste/frontcountry, 10% park). I looked at the Rome 390 Boss before and maybe I'll get them. I also like the idea of canting pads because I have some knee issues.

herzogone 01-03-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by someguy (Post 560590)
This is because the angle of the Cartel highback is not the same as the angle of the calves-part of the boot. You can of course vary the angle of the highback, but it is set as much upright as possible, already. If I'd vary it, the highback would be more "horizontally" and the space between the heel and the heel cup of the binding would be even larger.

Up to now I thought that this wouldn't be a problem because at the upper part the boot presses against the highback and so I can put force to the backside. So you think that this is a major problem?

Maybe the problem persists with a Cartel in size M because the angle of the highback stays almost the same, doesn't it? I had a Cartel in M before, but I gave it back because I felt like the straps were a bit too short for the boots. Maybe I have to change to some other binding. Could you recommend one? Should be good for all-mountain riding. I looked at the Rome 390 Boss before and maybe I'll get them. I also like the idea of canting pads because I have some knee issues.

You should force the boot all the way back against the heelcup, the upper part of the boot will just flex forward from the highback as needed. It's a little hard to tell from the pics with your boot loose in the bindings, but it does look to me like the bindings might be a little big for the board. It would be easier to judge that without the boots there at all. If you have room to shift the bindings towards the toeside edge a little without significant footbed overhang, then it might be ok. :dunno:

kctahoe 01-03-2013 12:55 PM

I have size M cartels as well as size 9 salomon savage boots and they fit great, I would think a L would be a bit big for your boots?

bseracka 01-03-2013 01:11 PM

Large is to big. If his heel was all the way back in the cup there would be no overhang at the toes and he could move the binding closer to his toe edge. The gas pedal also needs to be on the smallest setting and even then may be to far forward to provide any leverage. Toe straps also look about maxed out on the smallest setting

Do you have have a friend that knows gear that can help you with your bindings? If it's not to late I'd exchange them for a medium. If you've already used them I would talk to the shop and see if they are willing to work with you especiaaly if their employee put you in a large binding.


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