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ETM · 01-11-2013, 11:20 PM

FWIW I recently bought a 180 birdman and it applies the same theory as I did with my board. Its a normal board with an extended nose, you dont lose out on normal riding performance to have the powder nose. Its the best of both worlds if you can handle the length, for me its no problem at all.

JVee · 01-12-2013, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ETM

FWIW I recently bought a 180 birdman and it applies the same theory as I did with my board. Its a normal board with an extended nose, you dont lose out on normal riding performance to have the powder nose. Its the best of both worlds if you can handle the length, for me its no problem at all.

Now you have me thinking ETM! I'm headed to Myoko Feb 15. You are likely to still be testing your designs at that time. Im currently riding an Arbor Roundhouse 162 but very keen to get on a pow deck for my trip. Gentem's are just too expensive. Beautiful boards; hats off to Taro Tamai, but I can't shell $1500 at this stage.

Bloody snowboarding...gets us all too involved!
Cheers

ETM · 01-12-2013, 04:15 AM

If you dont mind a big board the 180 birdman is sick, also comes in a 170, and 160 but the 160 would be too much of a compromise IMO but probably better than a hovercraft I guess.
Other than that look at prior spearhead, fissile and khyber or burton cheetah (only 159 though)

Supra · 01-14-2013, 07:28 PM

short boards are awesome jvee!

I ride a 152 con artist and it's great. Hovercrafts are good too. They ride hardpack and gnar just like a regular board. It's got a sick profile.

I've even used a 150 nug in the deep stuff no problem.

Whether to get a 56 or a 60 hover, for your weight, I'd be leaning towards the 60. It will handle like your arbor but give you crazy float.

oh, I've got a 160 fish that's just lying around if you're interested.

TorpedoVegas · 01-14-2013, 07:40 PM

It's pretty obvious ETM has never ridden a Hovercraft because his theories about them are completely wrong. I have one and it feels like a full camber board on the hardpack, it holds an edge on ice and floats great in the powder, it's also very fast on the groomers. I'd rather have a 156 in a steep chute or in the trees than a 180 any day. Don't get me wrong, I'm also a fan of the LibTech Birdman, but the Hovercraft is a little more versatile in my books. I've ridden it on a groomer/hard pack day and I've ridden it in waist deep powder and it's great for both.

Tackle · 01-14-2013, 08:08 PM

Sorry for the Ot; I ride a 164 arbor abacus and I'm 6'4 and 260 lbs; i want to try some powder rocker I was looking for a 166 epic signal but doesn't existe or a flagship 168 or 163 W. do you have suggestion for powder rocker board under 170???? The hovercraft 160 is to short for me??

blunted_nose · 01-14-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Supra

short boards are awesome jvee!

I ride a 152 con artist and it's great. Hovercrafts are good too. They ride hardpack and gnar just like a regular board. It's got a sick profile.

I've even used a 150 nug in the deep stuff no problem.

Whether to get a 56 or a 60 hover, for your weight, I'd be leaning towards the 60. It will handle like your arbor but give you crazy float.

oh, I've got a 160 fish that's just lying around if you're interested.

What would you want for the 160 fish? i got a lobster.... freestyle.... in 157.

ETM · 01-14-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpedoVegas

It's pretty obvious ETM has never ridden a Hovercraft because his theories about them are completely wrong. .

Nobody is right or wrong, its what you prefer. For me a board with no camber in front of my foot will never hold an edge as much as I like.
You got any theories on the inserts being forward of centre?

TorpedoVegas · 01-14-2013, 09:22 PM

If you look at a Hovercraft you'll see that there is camber about 6 inches past your front foot, and the inserts are pretty much dead center on the camber portion which really is your effective edge. I don't understand how you think the inserts are forward of center. Ride one and you'll see it's basically a camber board with a big rockered nose. I like how much camber is past your feet because it actually makes the board feel like a camber deck and not a hybrid profile.

ETM · 01-14-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpedoVegas

I don't understand how you think the inserts are forward of center.

A picture tells a thousand words I guess.

01-11-2013, 11:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
ETM Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hokkaido in my mind Posts: 1,358	FWIW I recently bought a 180 birdman and it applies the same theory as I did with my board. Its a normal board with an extended nose, you dont lose out on normal riding performance to have the powder nose. Its the best of both worlds if you can handle the length, for me its no problem at all. __________________

01-12-2013, 04:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
ETM Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hokkaido in my mind Posts: 1,358	If you dont mind a big board the 180 birdman is sick, also comes in a 170, and 160 but the 160 would be too much of a compromise IMO but probably better than a hovercraft I guess. Other than that look at prior spearhead, fissile and khyber or burton cheetah (only 159 though) __________________

01-14-2013, 08:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tackle Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 60	Sorry for the Ot; I ride a 164 arbor abacus and I'm 6'4 and 260 lbs; i want to try some powder rocker I was looking for a 166 epic signal but doesn't existe or a flagship 168 or 163 W. do you have suggestion for powder rocker board under 170???? The hovercraft 160 is to short for me?? __________________ All you can eat!!!!!!! Arbor roundhouse RX 163/ Flux DMCC 12/13 Arbor Abacus 164/ Flux DMCC 11/12

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01-14-2013, 07:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Supra Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 409	short boards are awesome jvee! I ride a 152 con artist and it's great. Hovercrafts are good too. They ride hardpack and gnar just like a regular board. It's got a sick profile. I've even used a 150 nug in the deep stuff no problem. Whether to get a 56 or a 60 hover, for your weight, I'd be leaning towards the 60. It will handle like your arbor but give you crazy float. oh, I've got a 160 fish that's just lying around if you're interested.

01-14-2013, 07:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
TorpedoVegas Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 343	It's pretty obvious ETM has never ridden a Hovercraft because his theories about them are completely wrong. I have one and it feels like a full camber board on the hardpack, it holds an edge on ice and floats great in the powder, it's also very fast on the groomers. I'd rather have a 156 in a steep chute or in the trees than a 180 any day. Don't get me wrong, I'm also a fan of the LibTech Birdman, but the Hovercraft is a little more versatile in my books. I've ridden it on a groomer/hard pack day and I've ridden it in waist deep powder and it's great for both.

01-14-2013, 09:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
TorpedoVegas Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 343	If you look at a Hovercraft you'll see that there is camber about 6 inches past your front foot, and the inserts are pretty much dead center on the camber portion which really is your effective edge. I don't understand how you think the inserts are forward of center. Ride one and you'll see it's basically a camber board with a big rockered nose. I like how much camber is past your feet because it actually makes the board feel like a camber deck and not a hybrid profile.