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Burton Nug vs Harvest (Rocker VS Camber)

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#1 ·
How's it going everyone.

This is my first post here and sorry if this has been asked before. I've searched for my answers and couldn't find much.

Here's a little background.
I've been riding for 3 seasons, maybe a total of 30 times.
My current board is a burton twin 161, I'm 5'10" 225 (going to be dropping to 200) shoe size 10 to 10.5.

I am having a ton of trouble riding that burton twin. I can ride for a short while and my feet hurt, I have trouble turning on it and I just really don't like it, not sure if because it's cambered or what.

My friend let me ride his libtech (it's a rocker) 147, yes a 147 and I've had so much fun on it, I can turn easily and it doesn't get squirly (at my speeds)

I am looking at a burton nug and I'm trying to figure out what's best for a beginner/early intermediate.

The two boards I'm looking at is a burton nug 11/12 restricted directional (they have 148 and 152's in stock) and also a burton harvest 151.
I believe the nug is a rocker or maybe a v-rocker and the harvest is a camber board.

Without being able to try both boards on the snow I'm trying to figure out what would be better for me.
I absolutely love my friends 147 (rocker), but it's a little too small for me and according to the snowboard calcs it's waaaayyyyy too small for me.
Does anyone have any insight on the burton nug and the burton harvest. My main concern being, if I don't like my burton twin 161 will it feel the same on the burton harvest 151 since it's cambered?

I also am trying to learn riding switch as it alleviates some pain in my feet always riding on one side.
I don't know if the burton nug restricted directional can go switch.

Thanks.

Anthony
 
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#2 ·
Really you're best off on a 150 Nug, but the Directional 152 is the second go to. it wont feel the same going backwards, but really the only boards that you just should try to stay away from switch are those like the Fish, or swallowtails.

I have not ridden it, but the idea of the Harvest might be the dumbest thing I've seen. To make the Nug work and allow to downsize 10cm you need everything the Nug has. Deep sidecut, blown contact pts, rocker, squeezebox, and midwide waist. Throwing full camber into that just makes no sense to me at all.

The Twin was a mid stiff board with a fair amount of Camber though. You'd be much more comfortable on any good mid stiff park deck around 157-159. You'll progress fine and as you get better the board wont hold you back.

As far as foot pain, that's likely boots.
 
#3 ·
Thanks for all of your info.
The only reason I was even looking at the harvest is because there is a used one on sale and it's a twin vs directional.

I have thought about a shorter board for my main one, like a 157, but haven't gotten to try one yet before I buy one.

I'll stay away from the harvest and see if my local shops have a burton nug twin since I know they have the restricted directional in stock.

Thanks again.
My foot pain really comes from riding long narrow straight aways where I can't seem to keep my foot flat in my boot. I'm always on my toes and if I push my foot down in the back I start to turn instead of riding straight down the trail
 
#5 ·
I agree it's poor boot fit. I definitely have heel lift and not just a little bit.
That's another thing I need to fix, but I just got these boots (last season) and can't take them back or get new ones yet.

So, as far as boards I should look for the one on the right (link) vs the one on the left, or choose the left as my 2nd option.
2012 Burton Restricted Nug Directional vs 2012 Burton Restri...

The store I'm looking at definitely has the restricted directional, but not sure about the restricted (non-directional)
 
#6 ·
i have the nug and the root and have ridden the harvest.
from reading your posts, I don't think you should get a nug. Take that money and fix your boots.
The twin shouldn't be that hard for you to turn, you definitely need to improve your technique. Going to a 150 rockered board will def make turning easier but it won't make you a better snowboarder at this point.
As Nivek said, getting a 57 to 59 medium stiffness board would help, but as long as your boots are killing you, you will not have fun on the hill.
 
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