I have a pair of Burton Cartels(albeit last years) and I am not super stoked on them. They have a bit of forward lean that can't be undone and my boots(Vans Matlock) don't fit snugly in them. Plus they are plastic and I have had the strap screws loosen themselves in half a day of some intensely brutal ice riding. Just from what I have seen and heard, Union seems to generally be the most kickass brand. I would be careful limiting yourself to what REI has when you are looking because they are extremely limited compared to a legit board shop and you might find yourself "settling" for what they have instead of finding what you find the most comfortable. However, the return policy is kickass so that's always a plus.
AND DON'T CHEAP ON BOOTS. Bad boots ruin your whole damn time.
you can say that again, rei is great on refunding but selection is limited, i will head down to burton shop and rei try some boots on though, then maybe if they have one of the boards i listed down maybe i will look at them
I think all the advice here is in the right direction.
My 2cents- If money is an object then get to a mountain that's running a demo with some top manufacturers. Some good shops will let you demo boards as well. Its the only true way to see what feels right. Then let the board collecting begin!
actually money isn't an issue, I can spend however but just don't want to waste money away just because I can, I want to buy something that fits to my level of ability, but somethingin between an beginner-intermediate ride that handles all-mountain and some park.
i checked there's no demo running, wish they were actually it's a good idea
DEAR GOD! I feel sorry for you. These two numb nuts are arguing instead of helping...
First things first, freeride and all-mountain are not the same. Think about it this way, pure freestyle means you're in the park, doing rails, butters, jumps, side hits, etc.
Pure freeride means you're never on groomed snow. You're always in the off-piste, powder, trees, some natural jumps, etc.
All-mountain is somewhere in between. You ride on a lot of groomed runs, with the occasional trip through the park, and the occasional trip through some trees or powder.
Freestyle = soft setup (and yes, some companies have ratings out of 10 on all their equipment to give you a rough idea of stiffness)
All-mountain = medium setup
Freeride = stiff setup
Sounds like you're looking for a medium setup which is a great idea for a first setup. Those rating numbers aren't based on tests or anything, just the designs, so don't get too hung up on numbers. I just wouldn't buy anything with a 1-2 or 8+ as a new rider. Stick with something from 3-7 or so for all your gear. If the manufacturer doesn't offer a number rating, look for the words "all-mountain" as being the prime descriptive words for the item.
Weipim, how old are you? That's an honest question. It's really hard to read the "U R not helping" type posts!
hmm yea i guess it does make sense that freeride is on pow so board needs to be more stiff guess it does make sense, and freestyle boards do need to be soft so you land after a jump get on pipes etc. it all make sense, thanks man
guess definitely I need a medium setup, not a stiff board, not a soft bard an all mountainer to master my basics, but I am going to try the park after a month from now on so trying to get something that i can somewhat(i know you can't have everything in one board) do park and all mountain. Any specific board suggestions?
been looking at these
So I gathered a list of some, what y'all think?
( i tried choosing all-mountain, wide models for 160, 161cm, something i can improve on, and head to park when ready kinda thing, and I choose them to be camber since not rushing to improve skill)
2012/2013 ride machete
never summer legacy and cobra x
burton honcho (although i hate the graphics) (i don't really like any graphics on any burton lol don't know why)
gnu Carbon Credit Series 162W (6.5 rating so i guess not bad)
Skate Banana 159W (rating 6 stiffness)