It is Time.... - Snowboarding Forum

Oldman · 02-05-2013, 11:36 AM

.....to set the record straight on a couple of things, once and for all:

Respond yes or no.

1. A base can "dry out".

2. A base has "pores" that open and close.

3. An Extruded base can hold more wax than a Sintered base.

4. With regards to speed, Wax is more important than Structure.

Snowolf, Donutz or Killclimbz could we sticker the outcome of this for future reference for all of us? Some myths seem to die hard.

zk0ot · 02-05-2013, 11:44 AM

ohhh man no comment.

Rookie09 · 02-05-2013, 11:49 AM

I'm pretty sure numbers 3 and 4 are both big NOs. But I can't be sure on numbers 1 and 2.

wrathfuldeity · 02-05-2013, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldman

.....to set the record straight on a couple of things, once and for all:

Respond yes or no.

1. A base can "dry out". yes, if ridden or set out in the sun...wax is a hydrocarbon that will eventually evaporate/degrade
2. A base has "pores" that open and close.yes...generally due to the heat of the waxing iron

3. An Extruded base can hold more wax than a Sintered base. ugg... i don't remember...something like one or the other
4. With regards to speed, Wax is more important than Structure.[I]wax to match the temp and snow conditions....what do you mean structure...chemical structure of the ptex base that has virgin goat turd irradium graphite cobalt craponite or the fine brush structure of the wax...which is really anal[/I]
Snowolf, Donutz or Killclimbz could we sticker the outcome of this for future reference for all of us? Some myths seem to die hard.

snowklinger · 02-05-2013, 12:57 PM

1. yes
2. yes
3. no
4. this question doesn't really make sense

It helps to structure your wax after a fresh coat if you are going to be riding fresh pow, otherwise it really doesn't make a difference.

this is not sticky worthy imo

Oldman · 02-05-2013, 01:37 PM

My goal is to engage the membership, hear everyone out, have the facts and data presented, arrive at a consensus and Sticky only what we arrive at. Not the entire thread. Sorry for the confusion.

By structure, I refer to what happens when you have a deck stoneground, or Hand Structure the surface of the board, Lengthwise, Crosshatch, etc., not what you do after waxing.

Lamps · 02-05-2013, 02:11 PM

1. A base can "dry out".

{yes}

2. A base has "pores" that open and close.

{sort of, I think a base can absorb wax}

3. An Extruded base can hold more wax than a Sintered base.

{dunno}

4. With regards to speed, Wax is more important than Structure.

{no sure, is a waxed unstructured base better than an unwaxed structured base, probably yes but would you rather have perfect wax on a so-so base vs so so wax on perfect structure ( maybe yes))

The writer of the article below seems to really know a lot about this, best one i have seen on it

Tuning - The Carver's Almanac

redlude97 · 02-05-2013, 02:15 PM

1. Define "dry out"
2. Define "pores"
3. No
4. This answer depends on the conditions, wax type, structure etc.

poutanen · 02-05-2013, 02:47 PM

No, no, no, no. In that order...

Extremo · 02-05-2013, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poutanen

No, no, no, no. In that order...

I'm going with this... for no particular reason.

02-05-2013, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Oldman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 137	It is Time.... .....to set the record straight on a couple of things, once and for all: Respond yes or no. 1. A base can "dry out". 2. A base has "pores" that open and close. 3. An Extruded base can hold more wax than a Sintered base. 4. With regards to speed, Wax is more important than Structure. Snowolf, Donutz or Killclimbz could we sticker the outcome of this for future reference for all of us? Some myths seem to die hard.

02-05-2013, 11:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
zk0ot Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WIS Posts: 634	ohhh man no comment. __________________ BUCK FURTON

02-05-2013, 12:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,821	1. yes 2. yes 3. no 4. this question doesn't really make sense It helps to structure your wax after a fresh coat if you are going to be riding fresh pow, otherwise it really doesn't make a difference. this is not sticky worthy imo __________________ is it late october yet?

02-05-2013, 01:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Oldman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 137	My goal is to engage the membership, hear everyone out, have the facts and data presented, arrive at a consensus and Sticky only what we arrive at. Not the entire thread. Sorry for the confusion. By structure, I refer to what happens when you have a deck stoneground, or Hand Structure the surface of the board, Lengthwise, Crosshatch, etc., not what you do after waxing. Last edited by Oldman; 02-05-2013 at 01:40 PM.

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02-05-2013, 11:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rookie09 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 282	I'm pretty sure numbers 3 and 4 are both big NOs. But I can't be sure on numbers 1 and 2.

02-05-2013, 02:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lamps Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 633 Blog Entries: 5	1. A base can "dry out". {yes} 2. A base has "pores" that open and close. {sort of, I think a base can absorb wax} 3. An Extruded base can hold more wax than a Sintered base. {dunno} 4. With regards to speed, Wax is more important than Structure. {no sure, is a waxed unstructured base better than an unwaxed structured base, probably yes but would you rather have perfect wax on a so-so base vs so so wax on perfect structure ( maybe yes)) The writer of the article below seems to really know a lot about this, best one i have seen on it Tuning - The Carver's Almanac

02-05-2013, 02:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
redlude97 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle/Portland Posts: 993	1. Define "dry out" 2. Define "pores" 3. No 4. This answer depends on the conditions, wax type, structure etc.

02-05-2013, 02:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
poutanen Resident Creep-o-saurus Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 3,479	No, no, no, no. In that order...