The BOSS is to the EVIL TWIN what the GLOBAL WARMER was to
the AIROBIC: A GTI version featuring turbo ingredients! With a CORE
CORE for responsive carving and loaded pop the BOSS also features a
true twin shape with TWIN TBT and a soft-mid flex for fun and forgiving
freestyle riding. We also added carbon reinforcement to the binding
areas for extra torsional stability and turbo pop! The BOSS carves
brilliantly, will let you press like a street slayer, but can also stick a Mach
speed landing. This board will make you a boss: Everywhere and on
everything!
Left to Right:
Disaster, Disater Gulli Edition, Airobic, Global Warmer, Distortia
Distortia, Boss, Evil Twin, Riot
Omni, Welcome to Springfield Whatever (5), Goliath
Goliath, Jam, Omni, Camel Toe (this is the 153 - the 158 and 162 are black an red respectively and look mean).
this is definitely a big upgrade on all their graphics...except for the gulli, which I think is 70s hideous.
The mirrored bird faces on the distortia is outstanding - wish they put that on a mens board. I never really liked white boards or skulls, but the airobic looks great, too. Boss is kinda rad.
Well if you look at it, they went a little more wild with the park/freestyle boards, and more clean/simple with the more freestyle/all-mountain/pow boards. Pretty good idea imo.
don't know why they dropped the undisputed. yeah, the omni is a very similar board, but is way too soft for all mtn/pow...hell, even the evil twin is stiffer
I totally agree after riding a Omni for a couple of years I then upgraded to an undisputed earlier this year the board was so much stiffer and faster totally loved it then I find out Bataleon have dropped it, maybe it’s because of the white gold range of high end Boards that Bataleon have introduced ?
I rode Niseko in feb and had an amazing time on my Unity whale but I was considering changing to a Camel toe for next year any views ?
So I'm curious if there are any advantages in having the Evil Twin over the Boss? Obviously the evil twin is going to be cheaper, but with price aside...what are the differences between the two? Is the boss a little more stiff, snappy, and hard charging? Does the carbon make for it to be stronger and more poppy, and responsive without sacrificing flex and jibbing? Any info or experience would be appreciated.
So I'm curious if there are any advantages in having the Evil Twin over the Boss? Obviously the evil twin is going to be cheaper, but with price aside...what are the differences between the two? Is the boss a little more stiff, snappy, and hard charging? Does the carbon make for it to be stronger and more poppy, and responsive without sacrificing flex and jibbing? Any info or experience would be appreciated.
The difference in the Boss is the carbon at the inserts which is designed to add edge grip for enhanced carvability and to notch up the pop as well. The Flex is designed to be the same.
wired, if you had to compare bases on the cameltoe. How much difference would you notice in pow on extruded base as oppose to sintered. cant decide between cameltoe or unity whale.
Ok I can't figure out how to attach multiple photos but here's the strangest.. It's perpendicular to the board itself so I don't know how this could have happened... It's almost as if the lettering is trying to come out. My first reaction was it looks melted but I always wax my boards and have never melted one or had these weird issues.... And I can't seem to get the ptex to stay anywhere on the board. I've done it twice and taken it to the shop once thinking I was doing something wrong but the "fix" they did came out after a day of riding as well.....:icon_scratch:
Also what's with the little holes??? They are in a few spots on the base but only on the blue lettering...
You nailed it on the melting. If you hold heat on a diecut for too long they will seperate like this. It is essentially melting away the bond between the inlaid materials. The pickling is likely related (although I cannot say with certainty from the picture). It is possible to heat a base so that small bubbles form and collapse.
You nailed it on the melting. If you hold heat on a diecut for too long they will seperate like this. It is essentially melting away the bond between the inlaid materials. The pickling is likely related (although I cannot say with certainty from the picture). It is possible to heat a base so that small bubbles form and collapse.
That's crazy because I only turn the iron hot enough to melt the wax and not smoke.... Plus I would hope I'd notice doing that? But I must have, pretty sure the snow didn't melt it....
Hey so is the elephant on the boss and the base on the boss orange or red? The look orange in the pic but red in the catalogue?
I thought it was a Tomato. Not quite sure why The samples at the show were not true red. They were more like the pic than the catalog. I would not consider that too heavily, though as there is a lot of time spent sorting color for final production that happens after SIA.
I have a question about the camel toe. If the board is meant to be ridden in pow, how come its so soft? I mean, big mtn boards are always stiff... Also, how is the camel on groomers? How is their extruded base? Would you think that camel would compliment my lobster freestyle (ET)? Any big changes from 2013 models?
lots of powder boards are not stiff.... I do not work in the industry but I understand basic physics. The idea behind a powder board is to keep the nose up and out of the powder which in turn planes the rest of the board/rider up. By making a board softer you allow the pressure the snow creates to bend the board in an upwards direction increasing the nose lift and enabling a greater degree of float. Does that make sense?
The Cameltoe and the Omni are both a 5 on the flex scale. I rode an Omni (soft version of the Undisputed) a couple years ago in 2 ft of powder and it would sometimes just kinda fold up in turns. As much as I love Bataleon, they never were much in the way of pow boards.
Agreed but I think you are mistaking the two items. Pow board doesnt equal free ride board. Just like jib board doesnt equal big jumps. Even though they are in the same area of riding the design of them is slightly different. I ride an undisputed as my pow board and it works well for me, but it isnt classified as a pow board it is a freeride board. It is stiff and i can go off cliffs and bid drops with it. That doesnt mean I would take a pow board off of the same stuff.
Most people use powder boards on fairly mellow terrain since most people ride mellow terrain in general, when riding mellow terrain float is the most important feature on a pow board, once the terrain gets steep you are going to float on anything and the shape of a pow board becomes less important.
I have a (2008) 161W Goliath, (2012) 164 Omni, and a 158 Camel Toe.
Performance:
80% of the time I ride it's powder days in Japan (Deep but not extremely steep). The Camel toe has performed amazing for me. I have found that it seems to have equal to if not more float than my Omni did in the pow, but the main advantage of it is that it's very maneuverable through trees. It seems to perform well on groomers and it has a decent side cut for carving in between my tree runs.
Durability:
I have taken two hard hits on my base (1 minorly exposed the core). Both of them were very easy to repair and turned out amazing. The tail has taken some hits on trees, and is beginning to chip at the topsheet, but it's expected.
My friend and I swapped boards (Jones Hovercraft 156), and they are remarkably similar boards. I didn't notice much difference in float at all. Another thing to consider... The Camel toe seems to have 0 TBT in it's tail.
I have noticed my Omni do the "nose fold" in some of my turns. It's really kind of weird but I am fairly certain it's due to poor riding and not board performance.
I have a question about the GW, i need a pretty soft park board for presses and butters, but still have lots of effortless pop. I was thinking the global warmer. Does any one have experience on this bored?
I absolutely loved my Camel Toe for Jpow. It rode very similar to my friend's Hovercraft. I also own an Omni 164 that was my previous 'pow board', but it has been collecting dust since I started riding my 158 Camel. It's way more responsive in trees, and it give me more than enough float (190lbs). With the extruded base and a fresh wax job, I was blazing past everybody on the flats as well.
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