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dbrownie19 · 02-09-2013, 10:22 AM

Hi everyone,

Thanks for your input. As much as I wish I was putting down first descents in AK, I'll be doing the majority of my riding at resorts (trees & moguls in VT; back bowls, steeps & chutes out west), with some occasional side country/backcountry rips. But it sounds like the flagship or raptor may still be a bit overkill.

I've been riding my Nitro Shogun 161 for about 8 years, so I can handle a long(er), stiff hard charging board pretty damn well. Many of you seem to be recommending getting a 157-159. What are the advantages to that?

Thanks again.

Supra · 02-09-2013, 04:03 PM

Check out the k2 ultra dream

Aw3bb · 02-09-2013, 04:08 PM

Arbor Coda or the jones mt twin. We r close in size and I was making similar comparisons a couple months ago, went with the coda, absolutely love it! I have no prob riding switch on it when I need or want to

tom1234 · 02-09-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Supra

Check out the k2 ultra dream

i concur!

only spent 2 or 3 days on it, but so far i'm stoked that i went for the K2

sidewall · 02-09-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Supra

The flagship is super stiff aka not fun, and not damp at all. The profile is pretty flat too so don't expect a big rockered nose, it's just an early rise. Same concept, but way better construction and ride is the Rossi experience.

Other boards to look at : burton juice wagon, custom x, smokin kt22

This. Flagship is a harsh ride.

Triple8Sol · 02-09-2013, 11:25 PM

Don't let these guys scare you off from your original options. Sounds like you've been riding a long time and are used to a long, stiff, cambered board. Going to either of the options you listed will not be an issue, after you get used to the new board and alternative profiles after a day or two. Although the Raptor is regular width, you should be ok, might be pushing it a bit with a size 11 on the 159. Stiff yes, but plenty agile due to the width/sidecut. I had a great time bombing on mine, and had no issues with it in terms of maneuverability. Flagship is prob a great option also, more familiar length and camber in the middle, although it is damn stiff.

wernersl · 02-10-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol

Don't let these guys scare you off from your original options. Sounds like you've been riding a long time and are used to a long, stiff, cambered board. Going to either of the options you listed will not be an issue, after you get used to the new board and alternative profiles after a day or two. Although the Raptor is regular width, you should be ok, might be pushing it a bit with a size 11 on the 159. Stiff yes, but plenty agile due to the width/sidecut. I had a great time bombing on mine, and had no issues with it in terms of maneuverability. Flagship is prob a great option also, more familiar length and camber in the middle, although it is damn stiff.

Agree. I rock a 165 wide with size 11. Plenty maneuverable for me. And on those crappy days will slay the groomers.

danm · 02-10-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wernersl

Agree. I rock a 165 wide with size 11. Plenty maneuverable for me. And on those crappy days will slay the groomers.

Agree with your agree! OP would be fine on a 159... LOVE my Raptor (not endorsed btw)...

Triple8Sol · 02-10-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wernersl

Agree. I rock a 165 wide with size 11. Plenty maneuverable for me. And on those crappy days will slay the groomers.

Some of us didn't learn/progress on noodley bananas. We had to learn how to manhandle some unforgiving planks lol.

wernersl · 02-11-2013, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol

Some of us didn't learn/progress on noodley bananas. We had to learn how to manhandle some unforgiving planks lol.

Hey I started on an old school Burton Custom. No Noodle that's for sure.

02-09-2013, 10:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
dbrownie19 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 5	Hi everyone, Thanks for your input. As much as I wish I was putting down first descents in AK, I'll be doing the majority of my riding at resorts (trees & moguls in VT; back bowls, steeps & chutes out west), with some occasional side country/backcountry rips. But it sounds like the flagship or raptor may still be a bit overkill. I've been riding my Nitro Shogun 161 for about 8 years, so I can handle a long(er), stiff hard charging board pretty damn well. Many of you seem to be recommending getting a 157-159. What are the advantages to that? Thanks again. Last edited by dbrownie19; 02-09-2013 at 10:36 AM.

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Triple8Sol Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,686 Blog Entries: 1	Don't let these guys scare you off from your original options. Sounds like you've been riding a long time and are used to a long, stiff, cambered board. Going to either of the options you listed will not be an issue, after you get used to the new board and alternative profiles after a day or two. Although the Raptor is regular width, you should be ok, might be pushing it a bit with a size 11 on the 159. Stiff yes, but plenty agile due to the width/sidecut. I had a great time bombing on mine, and had no issues with it in terms of maneuverability. Flagship is prob a great option also, more familiar length and camber in the middle, although it is damn stiff. __________________ 14 NeverSummer Proto HD . 13 Never Summer Cobra . 12 Gnu Rider's Choice C2PTX 13 Now IPO . 12 K2 Formula . 11 K2 Formula 13 NB x 686 580

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Aw3bb Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 44	Arbor Coda or the jones mt twin. We r close in size and I was making similar comparisons a couple months ago, went with the coda, absolutely love it! I have no prob riding switch on it when I need or want to