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Old 03-05-2013, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I will be looking for a second board for next season.

Some background on me:
60 years old. 165 pounds. Size 8.5 to 9 boot.
First year snowboarding, been out 6 times this season so far.
Will shoot for 12 sessions next year.
Local hill is Monarch Mountain in south Colorado.
My first board is a K2 HC161 I bought used.
I've mounted Flow NX2AT bindings on them and like them.

Style is freeride. I'm looking for a board that will support
advancing in powder, steeps, bumps and trees.
I favor versatility at lower speeds over higher speed capability.

Gnu Billy Goat 156 is at the top of my list.
This makes me think a gullwing profile,
Camber/Rocker/Camber is what I should look for.

Topics for discussion:
* Wisdom of used versus new.
* Boards to consider.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Gnu Billy Goat 156 is at the top of my list.
This makes me think a gullwing profile,
Camber/Rocker/Camber is what I should look for.

Topics for discussion:
* Wisdom of used versus new.
* Boards to consider.
Just my $0.02 of course, but I like used boards. As long as you check them out carefully then it's pretty hard to get a dud. Lots of money can be saved, and you won't care so much if you take it over rocks, etc.

One thing I've seen is some sellers will get them base ground and sharpened prior to selling. While this may be because they had lots of base damage and needed a grind, it also means the board is likely ready to go without having to invest money into. I recently bought a Burton Custom for $220, including bindings which I'll sell for about $70, but the edges were dull and it hadn't been waxed in ages. Still a good deal but it needed work right off the bat.

As for board types, if you're looking to do advanced freeriding (steeps, trees, etc.) I would suggest camber underfoot, with lifted tips. Something with an RCR profile, or whatever they call it. A lot of the Jones boards have this profile, Priors, and I'm sure there are lots of others out there.
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That HC161 happen to be the hideous pinstriped pattern that's like olive, maroon, and black stripes???

If you're only aiming for ~12 days per season, no harm in going used. You can get a slightly used (from this season or last season) board for less than 1/2 price of a brand new board, and at that pace -- unless you hit some rocks or something -- you will still be able to ride it for several years, easily.
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As for board types, if you're looking to do advanced freeriding (steeps, trees, etc.) I would suggest camber underfoot, with lifted tips. Something with an RCR profile, or whatever they call it. A lot of the Jones boards have this profile, Priors, and I'm sure there are lots of others out there.

Rossignol and Signal also use the Cam/Rock shape you're describing.

I initially was thinking the C-R-C shape would be OK but I notice he has an interest in steeps, trees and bumps and in all those circumstances I'd favor more camber so the R-C-R shape might be a better fit. With that in mind, I really liked the Signal Omni as an all-mountain board. I think the OG would be a step up in terms of big mountain riding, but the Omni would probably be a better fit for a beginner/intermediate rider.
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Smokin snowboards kt-22 is very similar to the gnu. Great all mountain free ride board. It's directional though with a built in set back. You can buy last years models at a great discount on their site. They are brand new still, in their "blow out sale" section
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That HC161 happen to be the hideous pinstriped pattern that's like olive, maroon, and black stripes???
LOL. Yes that's the one. It had been gathering dust at my local alpine shop until I showed up. It's gotten me out on the slopes and enjoying myself.
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Did it happen to have any identifying stickers on it?

I ask because I used to have this board, gave it to a friend back in 2003 or 2004. Last I heard he was still riding it in Tahoe ~2009 or so, and I think he is now living in Colorado.

I know it's a long shot, but what if you're riding my old board???
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Personally speaking, my riding in steeps, bumps and trees improved after switching from camber to Gnu C2BTX. Everyone is different, but to me it was night and day as far as confidence goes.

I weigh the same as you at 5'11" with size 8-7.5 feet. And after over 20 years of snowboarding I have come to the conclusion that a stiff flexing board is overkill for my specs and riding style, espcially with an all camber profile. I'm a 10% park guy 90% all mountain so it's not just riding style. I truly think a mid-flexing board is all I need to charge as hard as I want through anything I want.

I ride a Gnu Riders Choice which is about a 5 in flex vs the BG which I think is a 7(?). Demo some stuff and see what you think, but I think you'd be happy with a variety of the Mervin C2BTX boards: Riders Choice, TRS, Travis Rice, BG. Pay attention to flex rating and length so you get something that is different enough from your exisiting board. With smaller feet width can be a concern too. That's why I like the Riders Choice. It has a narrow waist width with the asymm pickle tech at the heelside. Makes it quick edge to edge.

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Did it happen to have any identifying stickers on it?
The only sticker is for "The Edge" ski/board shop in Pueblo, it had been one of their rentals.
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The only sticker is for "The Edge" ski/board shop in Pueblo, it had been one of their rentals.
haha no worries. TBH I would not be surprised to learn that my friend is still riding that old thing. He's kind of a hippie like that.
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