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Thanks for that info.... it helps

Turns out the 157 is only available in the pro.
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Incase you didnt compare numbers yet,

157 blunt tip-

Overall= 157cm > 61.811in

Effective edge= 1210mm > 47.637in

Waist width= 258mm > 10.1574803in

Sidecut radius= 8.2m > 322.834646in

161.5 pointy tip-

Overall= 161.5cm > 63.582in

Effective edge= 1245mm > 49.015in

Waist width= 260mm > 10.2362205in

Sidecut radius= 8.4m > 330.708661in

Difference-

Overall= 4.498cm > 1.771in

Effective edge= 35.0012mm > 1.378in

Waist width= 2mm > 0.0787402in

Sidecut radius= .199m > 7.874015in


I really didnt foresee it being as much a difference as it is seeing as its compareing two different tip types but i dont think powder performance would be hindered much, but thats not deffinite, tip shape would surely have some effect on float....no?

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Incase you didnt compare numbers yet,

157 blunt tip-

Overall= 157cm > 61.811in

Effective edge= 1210mm > 47.637in

Waist width= 258mm > 10.1574803in

Sidecut radius= 8.2m > 322.834646in

161.5 pointy tip-

Overall= 161.5cm > 63.582in

Effective edge= 1245mm > 49.015in

Waist width= 260mm > 10.2362205in

Sidecut radius= 8.4m > 330.708661in

Difference-

Overall= 4.498cm > 1.771in

Effective edge= 35.0012mm > 1.378in

Waist width= 2mm > 0.0787402in

Sidecut radius= .199m > 7.874015in


I really didnt foresee it being as much a difference as it is seeing as its compareing two different tip types but i dont think powder performance would be hindered much, but thats not deffinite, tip shape would surely have some effect on float....no?
Nice - I did add some numbers but it's great to see them all laid out like this!

MY 162 BG has a 122 effective edge so I'd get about the same out of the 157 blunt. The blunt is wider than the goat. Goat is 25.3.

I've read, and when I talked with LIB they said the same, that when going to the HP model you can size up because it's lighter. Supposedly, per LIB, that's the only difference.

Reading I see some say the HP is poppier and harder to turn. The good ride says it's lower to the ground, less rocker and camber, and as a result more stable.

What this is coming down to is I've gotta try both and see what works for me.

Dog Funk is out of the HP so I'd have to get the pro model. If weight really is the only difference, and I tend to believe the lib rep since he's the closest to the product, then having a 157 pro and 161.5 HP to compare shouldn't be much of an issue.

Being 195 - 210lbs no gear I'm just not sure of the 157s ability be stable when the fresh pow turns into chopped up junk mid-day. It's most likely going to be a trade off -- more stability for speed or more agility for playing around.
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I've read, and when I talked with LIB they said the same, that when going to the HP model you can size up because it's lighter. Supposedly, per LIB, that's the only difference.

Well this just threw a wrench into my thought process, i was basing my sizing off of previous boards ive ridden and how they felt. Looking at libs website they list the pro hp sizing as follows:

153blunt-100+lbs
157blunt-120+lbs
161.5pointy-130+lbs
164.5pointy-140+lbs

According to that i could get away with riding a 157. normaly im on a 150ish so i was thinking a 153 would be on the bigger side for me......now im torn between 153 and 157 hahaha.

Edit:

Upon further review, lib tech shows the same weight to board size for the normal pro board as well.

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Well this just threw a wrench into my thought process, i was basing my sizing off of previous boards ive ridden and how they felt. Looking at libs website they list the pro hp sizing as follows:

153blunt-100+lbs
157blunt-120+lbs
161.5pointy-130+lbs
164.5pointy-140+lbs

According to that i could get away with riding a 157. normaly im on a 150ish so i was thinking a 153 would be on the bigger side for me......now im torn between 153 and 157 hahaha.

Edit:

Upon further review, lib tech shows the same weight to board size for the normal pro board as well.
I don't get the weight chart. According to that I can ride any of them. There's no upper limit.....

Forget about my goals with the new deck, the first thing that needs to be figured out is if my weight range will work with a 157.

Kind of bummed they don't have any HP 157 models
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Well this just threw a wrench into my thought process, i was basing my sizing off of previous boards ive ridden and how they felt. Looking at libs website they list the pro hp sizing as follows:

153blunt-100+lbs
157blunt-120+lbs
161.5pointy-130+lbs
164.5pointy-140+lbs

According to that i could get away with riding a 157. normaly im on a 150ish so i was thinking a 153 would be on the bigger side for me......now im torn between 153 and 157 hahaha.

Edit:

Upon further review, lib tech shows the same weight to board size for the normal pro board as well.
That weight chart kinda looks BS-ey to me. I mean, I know it's from Lib, but damn. A TRice 157 for a 120 pound dude? That's ridiculous. I'm 140lbs (with 8.5 boot) and totally good on the 153.

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I don't get the weight chart. According to that I can ride any of them. There's no upper limit.....

Forget about my goals with the new deck, the first thing that needs to be figured out is if my weight range will work with a 157.

Kind of bummed they don't have any HP 157 models
See my reply to tj_ras above.

And RE your other post, I don't think the Good Ride knows what they are talking about. It's the same fucking shape iirc.

As far as length goes, I guess you have to decide what you want it for most. All boards/decisions involve trade offs. Do you want to be able to plow, or do you want more agility in trees and such?

I guess it also depends on how stable of a rider you are (I've no idea of your style or skill level or anything). I'm a decent rider, not a park junky (just jumps), and the 153 works fine for me at all speeds (again 140lbs and 8.5 shoe). I guess it could be a little better at the end of the day, but the trade off is that it gives me more of what I want when the conditions are fair to optimum.

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That weight chart kinda looks BS-ey to me. I mean, I know it's from Lib, but damn. A TRice 157 for a 120 pound dude? That's ridiculous. I'm 140lbs and totally good on the 153.
I agree
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I agree
left you another post above. we got in at the same time.
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See my reply to tj_ras above.

And RE your other post, I don't think the Good Ride knows what they are talking about. It's the same fucking shape iirc.

As far as length goes, I guess you have to decide what you want it for most. All boards/decisions involve trade offs. Do you want to be able to plow, or do you want more agility in trees and such?
I want both! lol....

Seriously though.... the point of getting the T. Rice is to learn switch and get more playful around the entire mountain while riding like I've been riding. No Jibs. I'm more into steeps, powder, and trees and want to compliment that with switch and the little 180's off natural hits and drops, butter around, little to mid kickers, etc

I really don't bomb too often, I've actually been trying to slow it down and explore the mt. But in those cases when I am bombing or on a 50* pitch and hit some sketch I want to be feel confident about it.

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