Buying New Gear - new rider needs help - Snowboarding Forum

paymon · 11-10-2008, 05:05 PM

Hey guys!

So i have decided im going to be snowboarding a bit this year and figured i will buy the gear that i need instead of picking up rentals. (I have gone a few times, but nothing that id do very often, which i want to start doing)

I am
__________
220 pounds,
Wear a size 12 shoe (or 11.5 depending on brands)
6 ft tall, (if it matters)
17 years old, Male.

Ive been doing some research in the past week or so on certain brands, sizes etc. i Believe i should be looking for a board in the 160 area but i have heard about board weight limits and i am not sure what they exactly are, which is what ive had most my problems are. As with my boot size being to large and hanging over the board to much?

This is what i have had in mind -

Board - (Lamar Ultra Bronze Snowboard 159) (159 to small?, what other brands are good to look at?)
Best Prices on Lamar Ultra Bronze Snowboard 159 - Mens Snowboard Snowboarding Gear Equipment

Bindings - (Flow Flite 3 Snowboard Bindings)
Save on Flow Flite 3 Snowboard Bindings Black - Mens Snowboards Binding Snowboarding Gear Equipment

Boots - (Burton Moto Snowboard Boots)(Should i get a size 12 or 11.5?)
Best Prices on Burton Moto Snowboard Boots Black/Grey - Mens Snowboards Boot Snowboarding Gear Equipment

My questions are, will those bindings fit with that board and is the style of bindings durable, i did a few searches and people seem to like them because they are quick and easy to use once they get them fit for their boot? And im guessing i need a XL Size for the bindings right? I would like to spend no more than 380-400$ total with boots,bindings,board since this is my first board.

Thank you all in advance, if you guys have any questions, i will respond as soon as possible.

**killclimbz** · 11-10-2008, 05:17 PM

1. Take that Lamar and throw it out with your trash. Seriously, it's a junk board and not worth the money you'll spend on it. There are better boards to get for starting out.

2. Though I like Flow bindings, these are not the ones to get. When buying Flow, you want to get into their higher end binders.

3. Burton Moto's, "meh". You can probably find a more supportive boot for around the same cost.

Sorry to shoot them all down like that. Out of everything listed, the Moto's are about the only thing I would consider.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with renting the first few times out. A few others on the board here should chime in on what would be good first boards and such for your level. I would wait and check out the recommendations before buying cheap gear that won't last.

legallyillegal · 11-10-2008, 05:30 PM

Drop the crappy board. O-Matic makes more affordable boards that aren't low on the quality scale (so does Technine). Also you'll probably want a wide board. 159 won't be too small, but for freeriding you'll probably want something more like a 161. L/XL bindings will be fine.

11-10-2008, 05:40 PM

You should buy boots first, and don't have any preconceptions going in, don't bother researching. Just try on every boot you can find, and get the most comfortable. As tight as possible without being uncomfortable a bit tight is alright (but not painful) they'll break in. Loose isn't...they'll break in, and then your ankles. I say don't research because if you're anything like me, you'll get your heart set on something, then find yourself reasons to buy it. That's alright for bindings and boards, not boots.

After that you can check out bindings: try renting Flows before buying, I've never tried em but they inspire a strong love/hate. Rome and Union are two well-loved brands for traditional bindings. Then go for boards, there's a crapload of companies that offer quality boards. If you're looking to go cheap most of them offer cheaper beginner boards. Since you're interested in Flows, I'd suggest renting decent equipment (As opposed to the cheapo-rentalshop crap) two days, one with Flows and one with regular bindings and two different beginner level boards that catch your eye to get a feel for what you want.

But honestly, if you can find stuff (Bindings and boards) dirt cheap and they seem good enough, go for it. I got my whole first set up for $100 off Craigslist. You can use it to figure out what you're really looking for, and if you really like snowboarding then upgrade next year without feeling bad.

paymon · 11-10-2008, 09:11 PM

whew, pretty good criticism. Anyways, so what about these boards. I really dont want to buy something 'bad' so... take a look and tel me what u think

Best Prices on Omatic Ext Remo Snowboard 160 - Mens Snowboard Snowboarding Gear Equipment
Best Prices on Technine Mass Appeal Snowboard 161 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment
Best Prices on Omatic Boron Snowboard 160 - Mens Snowboard Snowboarding Gear Equipment

Best Prices on Ride Control Snowboard 162 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment
Save on Flow Mainframe Snowboard 162 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment
Save on Flow Quantum Fs Snowboard 159 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment

for bindings i dont know anymore :/

legallyillegal · 11-11-2008, 04:48 AM

09 O-matic Boron 162 Wide (26.6) $300
09 Technine Mass Appeal 160 Midwide (25.4) $300
08 Rome Arsenal L/XL $100
(Technine MFM Pro bindings are always popping up on SteepAndCheap/WhiskeyMilitia, although I can't remember if they are in L/XL or M/L (Technine M/L will struggle to fit a size 12 boot))

(none of these come with a free gift, so if that's worth something to you...)

legallyillegal · 11-11-2008, 05:06 AM

Technine Split T 163 Black Wide (26.65) $230
Technine Split T 163 Red Wide (26.65) $230

Technine Mass Appeal 163 Black Midwide (25.76) $250
Technine Mass Appeal 163 White Midwide (25.76) $250

(all 2008 models (not the best prices) + free gift)

paymon · 11-11-2008, 05:31 AM

thanks. looks like il push my budget up a bit more. Thanks for the help, il keep looking around for good deals. So those Rome bindings are good quality or what?

legallyillegal · 11-11-2008, 06:47 AM

Arsenals are stiff freeride bindings. If you want to go softer (i.e. you enjoy a lot of time in the park), 08 Rome 390 L/XL. Again, not the best price, but these things are hard to find in L/XL (mucho popular).

necro edit! ooo $114 (rust/white L/XL)

paymon · 11-11-2008, 11:51 AM

nice! i think il pick those bindings up,(unless someone thinks i shouldent) they have a very nice pride and i dont mind the colors.

11-10-2008, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
paymon Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Buying New Gear - new rider needs help Hey guys! So i have decided im going to be snowboarding a bit this year and figured i will buy the gear that i need instead of picking up rentals. (I have gone a few times, but nothing that id do very often, which i want to start doing) I am __________ 220 pounds, Wear a size 12 shoe (or 11.5 depending on brands) 6 ft tall, (if it matters) 17 years old, Male. Ive been doing some research in the past week or so on certain brands, sizes etc. i Believe i should be looking for a board in the 160 area but i have heard about board weight limits and i am not sure what they exactly are, which is what ive had most my problems are. As with my boot size being to large and hanging over the board to much? This is what i have had in mind - Board - (Lamar Ultra Bronze Snowboard 159) (159 to small?, what other brands are good to look at?) Best Prices on Lamar Ultra Bronze Snowboard 159 - Mens Snowboard Snowboarding Gear Equipment Bindings - (Flow Flite 3 Snowboard Bindings) Save on Flow Flite 3 Snowboard Bindings Black - Mens Snowboards Binding Snowboarding Gear Equipment Boots - (Burton Moto Snowboard Boots)(Should i get a size 12 or 11.5?) Best Prices on Burton Moto Snowboard Boots Black/Grey - Mens Snowboards Boot Snowboarding Gear Equipment My questions are, will those bindings fit with that board and is the style of bindings durable, i did a few searches and people seem to like them because they are quick and easy to use once they get them fit for their boot? And im guessing i need a XL Size for the bindings right? I would like to spend no more than 380-400$ total with boots,bindings,board since this is my first board. Thank you all in advance, if you guys have any questions, i will respond as soon as possible.

11-10-2008, 05:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
legallyillegal -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fuck Snowboarding Posts: 4,446	Drop the crappy board. O-Matic makes more affordable boards that aren't low on the quality scale (so does Technine). Also you'll probably want a wide board. 159 won't be too small, but for freeriding you'll probably want something more like a 161. L/XL bindings will be fine. __________________ THERE ARE SPECIFIC REASONS AS TO WHY I AM MORE LOCAL THAN YOU GOD IS DONUT

11-10-2008, 09:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
paymon Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	whew, pretty good criticism. Anyways, so what about these boards. I really dont want to buy something 'bad' so... take a look and tel me what u think Best Prices on Omatic Ext Remo Snowboard 160 - Mens Snowboard Snowboarding Gear Equipment Best Prices on Technine Mass Appeal Snowboard 161 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment Best Prices on Omatic Boron Snowboard 160 - Mens Snowboard Snowboarding Gear Equipment Best Prices on Ride Control Snowboard 162 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment Save on Flow Mainframe Snowboard 162 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment Save on Flow Quantum Fs Snowboard 159 - Mens Snowboards Snowboarding Gear Equipment for bindings i dont know anymore :/ Last edited by paymon; 11-10-2008 at 09:20 PM.

11-11-2008, 04:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
legallyillegal -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fuck Snowboarding Posts: 4,446	09 O-matic Boron 162 Wide (26.6) $300 09 Technine Mass Appeal 160 Midwide (25.4) $300 08 Rome Arsenal L/XL $100 (Technine MFM Pro bindings are always popping up on SteepAndCheap/WhiskeyMilitia, although I can't remember if they are in L/XL or M/L (Technine M/L will struggle to fit a size 12 boot)) (none of these come with a free gift, so if that's worth something to you...) __________________ THERE ARE SPECIFIC REASONS AS TO WHY I AM MORE LOCAL THAN YOU GOD IS DONUT Last edited by legallyillegal; 11-11-2008 at 05:10 AM.

11-11-2008, 05:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
legallyillegal -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fuck Snowboarding Posts: 4,446	Technine Split T 163 Black Wide (26.65) $230 Technine Split T 163 Red Wide (26.65) $230 Technine Mass Appeal 163 Black Midwide (25.76) $250 Technine Mass Appeal 163 White Midwide (25.76) $250 (all 2008 models (not the best prices) + free gift) __________________ THERE ARE SPECIFIC REASONS AS TO WHY I AM MORE LOCAL THAN YOU GOD IS DONUT Last edited by legallyillegal; 11-11-2008 at 05:09 AM.

11-10-2008, 05:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
killclimbz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Front Range Posts: 9,166	1. Take that Lamar and throw it out with your trash. Seriously, it's a junk board and not worth the money you'll spend on it. There are better boards to get for starting out. 2. Though I like Flow bindings, these are not the ones to get. When buying Flow, you want to get into their higher end binders. 3. Burton Moto's, "meh". You can probably find a more supportive boot for around the same cost. Sorry to shoot them all down like that. Out of everything listed, the Moto's are about the only thing I would consider. There is absolutely nothing wrong with renting the first few times out. A few others on the board here should chime in on what would be good first boards and such for your level. I would wait and check out the recommendations before buying cheap gear that won't last.

11-10-2008, 05:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
SpringheelJack Guest Posts: n/a	You should buy boots first, and don't have any preconceptions going in, don't bother researching. Just try on every boot you can find, and get the most comfortable. As tight as possible without being uncomfortable a bit tight is alright (but not painful) they'll break in. Loose isn't...they'll break in, and then your ankles. I say don't research because if you're anything like me, you'll get your heart set on something, then find yourself reasons to buy it. That's alright for bindings and boards, not boots. After that you can check out bindings: try renting Flows before buying, I've never tried em but they inspire a strong love/hate. Rome and Union are two well-loved brands for traditional bindings. Then go for boards, there's a crapload of companies that offer quality boards. If you're looking to go cheap most of them offer cheaper beginner boards. Since you're interested in Flows, I'd suggest renting decent equipment (As opposed to the cheapo-rentalshop crap) two days, one with Flows and one with regular bindings and two different beginner level boards that catch your eye to get a feel for what you want. But honestly, if you can find stuff (Bindings and boards) dirt cheap and they seem good enough, go for it. I got my whole first set up for $100 off Craigslist. You can use it to figure out what you're really looking for, and if you really like snowboarding then upgrade next year without feeling bad.

11-11-2008, 05:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
paymon Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	thanks. looks like il push my budget up a bit more. Thanks for the help, il keep looking around for good deals. So those Rome bindings are good quality or what?

11-11-2008, 06:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
legallyillegal -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fuck Snowboarding Posts: 4,446	Arsenals are stiff freeride bindings. If you want to go softer (i.e. you enjoy a lot of time in the park), 08 Rome 390 L/XL. Again, not the best price, but these things are hard to find in L/XL (mucho popular). necro edit! ooo $114 (rust/white L/XL) __________________ THERE ARE SPECIFIC REASONS AS TO WHY I AM MORE LOCAL THAN YOU GOD IS DONUT Last edited by legallyillegal; 11-11-2008 at 09:11 AM.

11-11-2008, 11:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
paymon Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	nice! i think il pick those bindings up,(unless someone thinks i shouldent) they have a very nice pride and i dont mind the colors.

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